Rock Guards/Sliders?

WhiteRider · **Posted:** Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:37 pm

Although the dent is VERY minor, I found out the hard way how much I needed rocker guards/sliders yesterday. So, I'm going to listen to myself this time and make the purchase this week.

I'm not seeing the "obvious" choice though, as most are priced about the same. Anybody have pros versus cons on the following sliders I am considering?

JCR Offroad - Stage 3 @ $419.00 (I noticed a recent change to the way they mount the rail/guard to the square slider, looks interesting.)

Rocky Road Outfitters - $409.00 (I can also get "yellow" fog and LED beams at the same time if I ordered from here.)

RockLizard - Super-skinks @ $355.00 (Not sure, but I think RL is also way behind on orders? I'm patient, but don't like not knowing how long.)

Considered a few other's such as MntLvrs -not making right now?, and Poison Spyder's "RockerKnockers", look REALLY cool with additional die cut steps on the top - but unsure as to whether they would actually fit?

Keep in mind, I live in British Columbia, Canada and shipping will be extra (although JCR claims they include freight on purchases $100+)

tommudd · **Posted:** Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:45 pm

RRO would never buy, proven fact that they will and do bend easily
JCR, some like them, I don't due to the angle of the extra bar, make it hard to step on if needed
Poison Spyder makes none for the KK

At The Helm · **Posted:** Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:16 pm

Yep scratch the rro sliders. It looks like they use only two 1"x1" supports which isn't nearly enough.

WhiteRider · **Posted:** Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:37 pm

I want the extra bar on the sliders to have an angle, but I can't quite tell if the JCR bar is angled, or how much? Just noticed, when I started to upload these pics to show the new supports, that they are labeled as XJ, but pretty sure they are for KK.

Wonder why they changed the supports, and if it angled the extra bar more, or less? The rails are almost 2", and appear to be approx 2" away from the slider. Seems like a pretty decent step to me.

Ted15 · **Posted:** Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:27 am

Here are some pics of Rocklizard's design, they seem much stronger. I really like mine and they've proven themselves a few times.

They're pretty heavy too. The wait was the only thing wrong but I think production is a little faster now. Definatly stay away from RRO, theirs are probably the weakest ones and they don't honor their warranty. I remember when mtnluver bent his, that was ugly.
You might check with JBA, they have a different kind of slider for the KJ. Don't know if they ever made them for the KK though.

mredmond · **Posted:** Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:42 pm

I have been trying to determine this same thing for myself and am between JCR and Rocklizard. As Ted noted, the RLs definitely seem stronger with the extra angled support leg, but like WhiteRider, I'd like the side tubing to be angled upwards.

Would the RLs be that much stronger than the JCR stage 3 rock sliders? And has anyone had any experience or have any photos with the JCRs on? Only one I can find on here is Marlon, and he seems to love them...

I'd love to get the MtnLvr's as its the best of both worlds, but it seems that isn't going to happen. Or ideally, I'd pick up a pair of these ARBs Mopar got, but I have no idea how I'd get them:

tommudd · **Posted:** Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:05 pm

Since ARB doesn't make any it would be hard to find them. Those were more than likley just one offs like they use on many show vehicles

Ted15 · **Posted:** Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:36 pm

tommudd wrote:

Since ARB doesn't make any it would be hard to find them. Those were more than likley just one offs like they use on many show vehicles

That's exactly what they are. I tried to get a set. I don't remember who I contacted but I think it was arb. The safari basket was a one off too. It's empty between the side rails to make room for the sky slider.

John3:17 · **Posted:** Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:50 pm

I just want those wheels lol

mredmond · **Posted:** Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:55 pm

Ted15 wrote:

The safari basket was a one off too.

That's what I figured, but it didn't stop me from dreaming. It's really a shame ARB chose not to go into production for the KK with these and other accessories. They likely could have had themselves a nice little market, especially with those rails and that rack (so long as they made it functional and added actual cross rails or mesh to it).

tommudd · **Posted:** Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:02 pm

John3:17 wrote:

I just want those wheels lol

Summit Racing , suppose to have them in stock

mredmond · **Posted:** Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:02 pm

John3:17 wrote:

I just want those wheels lol

Yeah, I just want that whole Jeep :-)r

tommudd · **Posted:** Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:05 pm

mredmond wrote:

Ted15 wrote:

The safari basket was a one off too.

That's what I figured, but it didn't stop me from dreaming. It's really a shame ARB chose not to go into production for the KK with these and other accessories. They likely could have had themselves a nice little market, especially with those rails and that rack (so long as they made it functional and added actual cross rails or mesh to it).

For the number they would of sold it wasn't worth their time or energy.
Have to remember there are only maybe 10% or less of KJ/KK owners that actually mod theirs.Same reason most all lift manufacturers have ignored the market. Had a nice conversation with the owner of one and he said the market is too small for us to do anything with the Libertys

John3:17 · **Posted:** Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:35 pm

tommudd wrote:

John3:17 wrote:

I just want those wheels lol

Summit Racing , suppose to have them in stock

16x7 4" bs - I'm not finding them

mredmond · **Posted:** Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:45 pm

tommudd wrote:

For the number they would of sold it wasn't worth their time or energy.
Have to remember there are only maybe 10% or less of KJ/KK owners that actually mod theirs.Same reason most all lift manufacturers have ignored the market. Had a nice conversation with the owner of one and he said the market is too small for us to do anything with the Libertys

Yeah, that makes sense. I always just thought that with 1.3 million Libertys sold in the US alone, it seemed like there could have been more of a market for something. But I guess like you said, there are very few owners like us out there looking to mod. It's a good thing we can make do with what we get and have great innovators out there like Rocklizard and AtTheHelm filling in the gaps!

But, back to the topic at hand, is the mounting design of the JCRs inferior enough as to make them not worth considering? I really would like that angled tube, but don't want to break $400+ rails on the first rock they hit. Has anyone aside from Marlon had experience (good or bad) with them?

tommudd · **Posted:** Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:13 pm

Couple of the guys here have the JCR, only thing they have hit with them though is their shins.Held up to them though :SOMBRERO:

tommudd · **Posted:** Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:16 pm

John3:17 wrote:

tommudd wrote:

John3:17 wrote:

I just want those wheels lol

Summit Racing , suppose to have them in stock

16x7 4" bs - I'm not finding them

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tommudd · **Posted:** Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:00 pm

mredmond wrote:

Ted15 wrote:

The safari basket was a one off too.

That's what I figured, but it didn't stop me from dreaming. It's really a shame ARB chose not to go into production for the KK with these and other accessories. They likely could have had themselves a nice little market, especially with those rails and that rack (so long as they made it functional and added actual cross rails or mesh to it).

Being in Tulsa
you could run over and pick up a set from RL
just about 3 hours away
he just shipped his last set that he had in stock but will be making more real soon
email him best way since they are always in the shop fabricating

mredmond · **Posted:** Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:14 pm

tommudd wrote:

Being in Tulsa
you could run over and pick up a set from RL
just about 3 hours away
he just shipped his last set that he had in stock but will be making more real soon
email him best way since they are always in the shop fabricating

Oh, I didn't realize they were so close. I remember trying to find a location on their website but couldn't get it. Where are they at? I try to go out camping every other weekend or so, a little trip that includes equipping the Jeep sounds nice. And maybe I'll see if they could even work a custom fab job for some angled side tubes. Thanks for the heads up!

ABQKJ · **Posted:** Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:14 pm

mredmond wrote:

Would the RLs be that much stronger than the JCR stage 3 rock sliders? And has anyone had any experience or have any photos with the JCRs on? Only one I can find on here is Marlon, and he seems to love them...

tommudd wrote:

Couple of the guys here have the JCR, only thing they have hit with them though is their shins.Held up to them though :SOMBRERO:

I have JCR sliders on my KJ. I have wheeled all over New Mexico, Colorado and Utah with them. They have taken hard hits with the full weight of the Jeep multiple times. They have lots of scrapes and dings but have never bent. I have also seen the RL sliders take similar hits without damage. Either one will protect your jeep.

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