Do I NEED al's 400$ a-arms

Gixxa · **Joined:** Fri May 01, 2015 12:44 am **Posts:** 96

So do I NEED the 400$ a-arms or not
Ironman front struts and al's front coils ... Then a 1/2 inch Clevis lift and maybe the 1/4 inch spacers in the future

JeepMorrison · **Joined:** Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:34 am **Posts:** 1236

Whats a "als front coils"?

If you add the top plate, yes.
If your upper ball joints are bad, Yes.
General rule i go by, anything over 3" on factory arms are asking for trouble.

Scar0 · **Posted:** Thu May 28, 2015 2:49 am

Before I went with the Adjust-A-Strut front lift I did get the A-arms. On full drop the stock arm was contacting the spring (2.5" lift) and causing the upper spring/shock mounting area steel to flex even more then it does with normal travel.
Over time this would have stressed the steel enough to cause it to break in that area.
If I remember correctly that did happen to a member here...
I decided it was better to get the A-Arms now, then to have to weld a major body part back together in the future. Which was also a deciding factor for me to move up to the Adjust-A-Strut.
The nice thing about the Adjust-A-Strut is the top plate has a pivot bushing for the spring/shock, so now I don't have to worry about steel stress in the upper mount area.
The pivot bushing is on the right of this Pic.

tommudd · **Posted:** Thu May 28, 2015 7:29 am

Gixxa wrote:

So do I NEED the 400$ a-arms or not
Ironman front struts and al's front coils ... Then a 1/2 inch Clevis lift and maybe the 1/4 inch spacers in the future

Ironman HD springs give 2.25 inches of lift
Adding in the clevis and top plate and now you are at 3.75 inches of lift
At that height without the arms it will be hard to align, you will have major UCA/ Spring contact with stock arms etc
Personally anything over 3 inches you need them like Kayak suggested and Scar0

Gixxa · **Joined:** Fri May 01, 2015 12:44 am **Posts:** 96

Fiiiiine I'll order them .... But doesn't the ironman strut also add 1.5 lift

tommudd · **Posted:** Thu May 28, 2015 12:17 pm

Gixxa wrote:

Fiiiiine I'll order them .... But doesn't the ironman strut also add 1.5 lift

Ironman springs ( the HDs) add 2.25 inches of lift

Gixxa · **Joined:** Fri May 01, 2015 12:44 am **Posts:** 96

Okay ordered the a -arms
So what lift should I expect ....
Ironman springs
Ironman struts
1/2 Clevis

4 rear springs ...
Do I need more lift in the front should I get the 1/4 inch spacers also

tommudd · **Posted:** Thu May 28, 2015 1:56 pm

Gixxa wrote:

Okay ordered the a -arms
So what lift should I expect ....
Ironman springs
Ironman struts
1/2 Clevis

4 rear springs ...
Do I need more lift in the front should I get the 1/4 inch spacers also

With the Ironman HD springs and 1/2 inch clevis you will be at 3.25 inches of lift IMO I'd stay at that height, less issues with CVs, springs hitting the UCAs etc
Installing another 1/2 inch you'll be at that point of having more issues possibly
4 rear springs?? or 4 rear upper isolators?
I assume you ordered rear shocks as well ?

Gixxa · **Joined:** Fri May 01, 2015 12:44 am **Posts:** 96

Sorry the 4 inch rear springs and no isolators

tommudd · **Posted:** Thu May 28, 2015 4:54 pm

Gixxa wrote:

Sorry the 4 inch rear springs and no isolators

Well since you went with the 4 inch rear springs then you are going to want to go with the upper plate as well
Thats the setup I had figured for the 4 inch rear springs/ Ironman front coild, .500 clevis and 1/4 top plate on the Econo lift

Gixxa · **Joined:** Fri May 01, 2015 12:44 am **Posts:** 96

I'll just order those in the future ..
Any other install hiccups you think I'll run into with that much front lift

Scar0 · **Posted:** Fri May 29, 2015 6:38 am

On the rear with that much lift it is likely your drive shaft will hit your fuel tank when flexing (like Digger did even with an adjustable track bar). You may also have issues with the brake lines being to short.

Gixxa · **Joined:** Fri May 01, 2015 12:44 am **Posts:** 96

Is there a solution to that problem

tommudd · **Posted:** Fri May 29, 2015 10:40 am

Yes adjustable track bar
Plus going that high I would strongly suggest longer sway bar links as well
Lots happen when going past 3 inches :wink:

Gixxa · **Joined:** Fri May 01, 2015 12:44 am **Posts:** 96

I have the track bar
and bought extra sway bar links to extend ... Just didn't know how much to add

The Scott McLean · **Joined:** Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:19 pm **Posts:** 43

Can the jba arms be used with a stock suspensions? Planning to do a ome lift, can they be used for both?

tommudd · **Posted:** Sun May 31, 2015 10:17 pm

The Scott McLean wrote:

Can the jba arms be used with a stock suspensions? Planning to do a ome lift, can they be used for both?

There are arms for stock suspensions
and there are arms for lifted suspensions
So if you are going to lift, wait and buy the ones for lifted one

Bmxer524 · **Posted:** Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:31 am

Tom, I believe JBA only has stock height a-arms for KJs. KKs only have lifted arms.

The Scott McLean · **Joined:** Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:19 pm **Posts:** 43

How much lift, is lifted? Ome lift is only 1.5 inches over stock. Some say they actually lift 2.5 but I suspect that is because of their stock suspension is sagging so much. Anyone have ome lift with jba arms?

John3:17 · **Posted:** Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:47 am

The Scott McLean wrote:

How much lift, is lifted? Ome lift is only 1.5 inches over stock. Some say they actually lift 2.5 but I suspect that is because of their stock suspension is sagging so much. Anyone have ome lift with jba arms?

No, OME is around 2.5" above factory stock, you can run that without the A arms. If you add a clevis lift and top plate it'll set you up to about 3.5". Anything above a 3" lift should have the a arms to avoid spring contact and to aid with alignment. I have OME 790's on the front because of my ARB bumper and winch. I'm 3.5" over factory height and 5.5" higher than my sagged height!

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