Mann ProVent 200 CCV filter

&JUSTICE4ALL · **Posted:** Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:45 pm

Any news on the oil drain valve?

oldnavy · **Posted:** Wed Dec 28, 2005 2:48 pm

Yes the adapter is being custom made and we should have them before the end of Jan, the threads of the oil drain plug were not "threads" they are not even metric. If the oil pan thread is ever stripped by whoever is draining the oil they have big problems due to none standard threads and taper. The other problem would be if the 6 mm hex hole was ever damaged or reamed out, like they did at local dealer yesterday. I got to go get the full story on that today or tomorrow, because it is sitting in the shop waiting an oil pan.

Jeepster · **Posted:** Sat Dec 31, 2005 12:23 am

Has anyone went as far as to flush out the oil from their CRD Intercooler? I'm about to install a Provent and clean the CAC hoses but wonder how I might flush the intercoller too.

oldnavy · **Posted:** Sat Dec 31, 2005 7:23 am

Jeepster wrote:

Has anyone went as far as to flush out the oil from their CRD Intercooler? I'm about to install a Provent and clean the CAC hoses but wonder how I might flush the intercoller too.

Unless you have put 10,000 miles or been driving it hard I doubt that you would have more then an ounce or two in the intercooler. That said, all that's required is to remove the lower hose off the cooler, then raise the front of the truck and let gravaty do it the rest. VW's which were bad at the oil in intake would normaly only have about 6 or 8 oz in 50,000 miles, some more some a lot less. It seemed to depend on driving habit's and to some degree type of oil used in the engine.

Ranger1 · **Joined:** Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:40 pm **Posts:** 1137

"VW's which were bad at the oil in intake would normaly only have about 6 or 8 oz in 50,000 miles, some more some a lot less."

That's good news. Especially since the CRD intercooler hoses are both very close to the top.

Jeepster · **Posted:** Sat Dec 31, 2005 12:43 pm

Ranger 1, are you saying the CAC hoses on the CRD are close to the top of the intercooler? If so how will a cleaner or the residing oil find it's way out of the intercooler during the cleaning process. I'm concerned the flushing materials will be stuck in the intercooler and get injested into the motor upon startup.

Ranger1 · **Joined:** Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:40 pm **Posts:** 1137

On mine they are. I'm not sure how the Intecrooler would drain without taking it out. Look under the hood at the 2 hoses going into the intercooler. They run from the turbo to the top of the intercooler on the passenger side, and on the driver side, you can trace back from the engine intake tube to the intercooler and see that it's right at the top.

Maybe Jeep changed intercoolers after mine was built?

Jeepster · **Posted:** Sat Dec 31, 2005 12:52 pm

OldNavy, thanks for your reply. Have you dumped the oil out of your intercooler using that method yet? I've got close to 10K miles on my CRD so I think I'm going to try flushing the intercooler as soon as I can figure out how to do it.

I don't really want to remove the intercooler because of the AC condenser charge but I think it would be a good move for me to flush the intercooler somehow. Judging by the excessive amount of oil in my CAC hoses I'm guessing I have a significant amount of oil in the intercooler. I've also had to add a quart of oil to the engine a month after I bought it and then again a month after doing an oil change. The first quart after buying it could have been poor PDI prep at the dealer but I was careful when I changed the oil so the second quart definitely went somewhere.

oldnavy · **Posted:** Sat Dec 31, 2005 4:42 pm

Jeepster wrote:

OldNavy, thanks for your reply. Have you dumped the oil out of your intercooler using that method yet? I've got close to 10K miles on my CRD so I think I'm going to try flushing the intercooler as soon as I can figure out how to do it.

I don't really want to remove the intercooler because of the AC condenser charge but I think it would be a good move for me to flush the intercooler somehow. Judging by the excessive amount of oil in my CAC hoses I'm guessing I have a significant amount of oil in the intercooler. I've also had to add a quart of oil to the engine a month after I bought it and then again a month after doing an oil change. The first quart after buying it could have been poor PDI prep at the dealer but I was careful when I changed the oil so the second quart definitely went somewhere.

The description I gave was rather specific to VW's I've done, but would apply I thought to the CRD. I did know several VW drivers that drilled a hole and then braized in a drain valve as on a radiator. If I look at the CRD and see if it's easy enough to get to I may have that done to the CRD by a radiator shop. That should cost no more then maybe $50 depending on difficulty of getting to area to do the work.

If possiable start checking oil after over night setting or at least a couple of hours, as it does not drain fast like most gassers. Mine always shows about 1/3 qt low 10 or 15 minutes after shut off, then next morning it's on the full mark.

Jeepster · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:26 am

Thanks OldNavy, I make it a habit not to check my oil unless the vehicle has set over night and is on level ground. That way I'm getting a good accurate reading.

I like the idea of putting in a drain valve in the intercooler. That would be an easy to regularly flush the intercooler. Let me know what you find out and I'll do some checking and do the same.

On another subject, I'm ready to order the Pro 7 air filter and don't show a listing for the CRD application, do you have a part # for the correct CRD air filter for Pro 7?

oldnavy · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:53 am

If you are wanting to use stock air intake the part number is 30-10073 and is listed as for the 3.7L V6 gasser, but the V6 and CRD use same OEM filter. There will be no real hp gain (3% or less) with the Pro 7 over the drop in OEM filter because of the turbo, the only time to use a filter like pro 7 is at the drag strip where a 1/100 to 1/000 of a second gain means difference between winning or going home empty handed. For street use they are a waste of money and only make a nice roar in non turbo cars and in those maybe 5% hp gain, these are all "real dyno test" meaning not company hype. The aftermarket airfilter systems like the Pro 7 or K&N CALI for example are yopu least bang for you buck. Remember these filter systems were originally designed for race track/off road use where engines were only expected to last one race or one race season. They don't even filter as good as a stock filter from all testing I have seen. [url]Check out this link before you do anything to air intake system.[/url]

Jeepster · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2006 12:00 pm

OldNavy, Where's the link?

oldnavy · **Posted:** Sun Jan 01, 2006 12:04 pm

Ooops, another senior moment. :oops:

http://home.usadatanet.net/~jbplock/ISO5011/SPICER.htm is the link.

&JUSTICE4ALL · **Posted:** Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:43 am

oldnavy, any word on the drain valve?

oldnavy · **Posted:** Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:25 pm

Adapters are being made in CA at present and Greg hope's to have them sometime by close to end of this month. I am really wanting to get mine and get it in because I am at 4000 miles now and by end of the month will be 5000 most likely. I will give him a call Fridy for updates on other GB's for the Forum members.

&JUSTICE4ALL · **Posted:** Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:56 am

Thanks for the update.

Terry Lesh · **Posted:** Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:56 pm

I have an '05 Liberty Sport CRD, only 3000 miles so far. I want to avoid any sooting problems in the valve and manfold. I run diesel cleaner, romp on it once in while, am installing an Aero Turbine. I tow 1200 # occasionally, 4500# occasionally, the rest is overall short freeway and city.

I am not mechanically inclined. Do I need to have an after market CCV filter ?
Who can I have put it on, the dealer ? or another shop ?

I tried to follow the links on intallation, but it seems way beyond me.

Terry Lesh

tired_old_dave · **Joined:** Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:45 pm **Posts:** 79

I got my Provent 200 late friday and searched all forums about provent. One poster asked which was in and which was out even though arrows are molded into the case. I liked the Australian mount between the a/c and the battery. It got me to mounting mine there resting on the abs with a drain line around the hoses to keep off the steering shaft and hang down low for draining underneath. I also noticed some space on the drivers side behind the plastic clip-on grill.

But my real question is based on reads that -my filter took a long time to fill up before any drip tube accumulation. My homemade drip tube started to collect right away with 5w40. I always thought that the reinforced side of a filter was the clean side. After looking at the construction, I'm thinking of ignoring the arrows and the glossy 12 page instructions and doing the following. Remove the outlet spring and flap that causes the outlet to be shutoff if a certain pressure is met. We have a spring on our factory ccv, all I wanted was a catch can with a real filter. Now the dirty oil comes in the bottom and immediately goes to the drip tube. Oily gases go through the filter to the reinforced inner core up through the center and out the arrow in port 1, the tangential input port. The spring in the cap will vent to atmosphere if a certain pressure is met.

Thank you if you took the time to read this. Is there a full moon, I think I want to howl.

irunmiles · **Posted:** Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:57 am

I installed my Provent at 6k, and had very little oil accumulation after ~1,000 miles (using Rotella). Didn't check it again until last nite when I did my 12,500 oil change. There was a cup of water and about a half of cup of sludgy oil in the drain tube and partially backed up into the Provent housing. The outlet line of the Provent had an oil coating but was not dripping. The Provent filter was dripping with oil. Here's my question - is the filter still good to use, can it be cleaned or should I just wipe off the oil and stick it back in?

wenied · **Joined:** Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:01 pm **Posts:** 107

You got a CUP of oil??

Good lord. How big is your drain tube?

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