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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:26 am 
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Warlmart carries 2 brands that fit our trucks...
motorcraft
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Fram....

BTW, motorcraft filter is 1/3rd biger. (length wise)

either or neither ?

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Neither. Do a search, it has been discussed.

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I use the M1 301 from Mobil 1 much more capacity and it is a synthetic filter element plus one of the strongest case of any oil filter on the market. Ditto the above statement.


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My limited, lazy research has concluded Wix is best.
I buy the fuel, air, oil and transmission filters from them.
Wix 33647-oil filter, find a local supplier or buy in bulk and ship them in.

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onthehunt wrote:
Neither. Do a search, it has been discussed.


I don't recall seeing the motorcraft 2005 filter getting "dissed" it is a silicone valve and seems well done. What is the issue?

Those Frams look like crap..

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onthehunt wrote:
Neither. Do a search, it has been discussed.


I don't recall seeing the motorcraft 2005 filter getting "dissed" it is a silicone valve and seems well done. What is the issue?

Those Frams look like crap..


Don't worry about it, I did a search and it appears you are incorrect, most speak highly of the Motorcraft filter.

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Fram sucks. Motorcraft is decent (OEM quality).

Best bang for the buck are Wix/NAPA filters. Next up would be Purolator Pure Ones.

Some people run Mobil 1 filters. I'm not that rich. NAPA for me.

I believe that over on Bob The Oil Guy's web site, someone did some fairly serious testing of filters based on oil analysis after a few thousand miles. Same vehicle, same oil, same fuel, different filters. Wix/NAPA and Purolator came out near the top.

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Don't worry about it, I did a search and it appears you are incorrect, most speak highly of the Motorcraft filter.



Yes, put the discontinued filter for a Ford Focus on your Jeep. It may fit but it doesn't make it right. What's the bypass valve opening psi rated at? I'm not saying the Fl-2005 is a bad filter, it's just not right for the application. Fram lists a different filter for the CRD than it does for the 3.7. Chrysler does also. Wonder why?

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get an Amsoil filter and leave it on for 12000 miles with no worries. Fram is a no go for sure...

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onthehunt wrote:
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Don't worry about it, I did a search and it appears you are incorrect, most speak highly of the Motorcraft filter.



Yes, put the discontinued filter for a Ford Focus on your Jeep. It may fit but it doesn't make it right. What's the bypass valve opening psi rated at? I'm not saying the Fl-2500 is a bad filter, it's just not right for the application. Fram lists a different filter for the CRD than it does for the 3.7. Chrysler does also. Wonder why?


what does the Fl-2500 have to do with anything?, the 2005 is the Motorcraft recommended for our CRD.

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onthehunt wrote:
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Don't worry about it, I did a search and it appears you are incorrect, most speak highly of the Motorcraft filter.



Yes, put the discontinued filter for a Ford Focus on your Jeep. It may fit but it doesn't make it right. What's the bypass valve opening psi rated at? I'm not saying the Fl-2005 is a bad filter, it's just not right for the application. Fram lists a different filter for the CRD than it does for the 3.7. Chrysler does also. Wonder why?


Exactly. Some of the filter brands didn't spec a separate filter for our diesel - they just simply listed the same filter that fits the 3.7 V6 gas engine - for the simple reason that both engines use the same thread and gasket size for the oil filter - they saved themselves a few bucks by not having to make another style filter.

Purolator is the cheapest alternative that actually makes a specific filter for our CRD's, that matches the OEM filter in physical construction and layout. Fram does also, but then in my book Fram isn't even worth mentioning.

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retmil46 wrote:
onthehunt wrote:
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Don't worry about it, I did a search and it appears you are incorrect, most speak highly of the Motorcraft filter.



Yes, put the discontinued filter for a Ford Focus on your Jeep. It may fit but it doesn't make it right. What's the bypass valve opening psi rated at? I'm not saying the Fl-2005 is a bad filter, it's just not right for the application. Fram lists a different filter for the CRD than it does for the 3.7. Chrysler does also. Wonder why?


Exactly. Some of the filter brands didn't spec a separate filter for our diesel - they just simply listed the same filter that fits the 3.7 V6 gas engine - for the simple reason that both engines use the same thread and gasket size for the oil filter - they saved themselves a few bucks by not having to make another style filter.

Purolator is the cheapest alternative that actually makes a specific filter for our CRD's, that matches the OEM filter in physical construction and layout. Fram does also, but then in my book Fram isn't even worth mentioning.







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