I didn’t do this as a test per se, but to be honest I bought this lift unaware of the problems associated with it, it wasn’t until after I had purchased it that I started reading about all the problems people were having with it, I even tried to cancel the order first thing the following morning but Desert Rat told me that it had already shipped, so I figured as long as I had this thing on the way I might as well see for my self if there actually was a problem and to what extent and I figured as long as I was at it I would share my findings, so hopefully someone else finds this info useful and at any rate I've already put the jeep back together so at least when I do put a real lift on my jeep I'll know how to do it so all's well that ends well.

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2006 CRD Sport
MOPAR skid plates, RRO Rock Rails, tow hooks, JKS quck disconnects, 245/75R16LT Uniroyal Liberator A/Ts. OME790s and Rancho RSX17505 struts in the front OME948s and Rancho 17004s.
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OME lift was released prior to CRD being announced. OME setup the 3 springs: replace stock, bumper, and bumper/winch. But now, the diesel engine is significantly heavier than the V6 thus no OME spring can deal with the added weight of the diesel/bumper/winch. Has anyone asked OME for a superduty spring? Can't imagin it would be that big of deal to setup. If there is demand they may step up and add a new spring or 2.

It should not be hard to get some custom springs setup - If I remember there are 3 places around here that can do it, but then again we still have ties to the auto industry. .

Those pictures tell the whole story. People need to understand that a spacer lift is an incomplete package, you need to add longer bumpstops too or ruin your shocks. The manufacturers and marketers of spacer lifts should be addressing this too. IMO $200-250 for a spacer lift is out of line also unless it includes better bumpstops.

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Early '02 Limited, Steel Blue, White Guts

Having read the various lift horror stories, I still think an OTT lift makes sense for a budget lift. I would just get longer bump stops for the front and longer travel shocks for the rear.

Judging from the infor given on the site, the only way the front shocks will go is with full compression (longer bumb stop). Wheel drop should then not pose any problems.

As for the back, longer travel shocks should help.

I guess this would explain the few people who got the OTT lifts but drive mostly on the street. They seem not to have problems.

Having said that, the specialized full kits are probably the only way to go for serious offroad stuff, but for the rest of us I think the OTT kits shouldn't be too bad?


Any comments are always welcome

Thanks

I just got off the phone with Rand at Teraflex and talked about the issues with the lift I bought he explained that because the commanders bump stop design is incorporated into the strut mount and therefore was not an issue that this was overlooked on the liberty's lift and that they were unaware that there was a problem with the lift for the liberty, anyway he told me that because of my "research" they are looking into designing an extended bump stop to go with their kit for the KJ. So I guess in a way I do work for teraflex now lol, But kudos to them for listening to customer feedback.

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2006 CRD Sport
MOPAR skid plates, RRO Rock Rails, tow hooks, JKS quck disconnects, 245/75R16LT Uniroyal Liberator A/Ts. OME790s and Rancho RSX17505 struts in the front OME948s and Rancho 17004s.
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Just to add some more links

The bumpstop extension
http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=5379

and Wilmo's experience with OME springs on his CRD
http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/vie ... ght=#49358

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2005 CRD
stuff
Skeptic quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur

It's a CRD. Our front coil springs are far superior to what's available and for right now, we have to retain them. As such, the ride is awesome.

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'05 CRD Sport born on 06/20/05, bought on 9/23/05, L.O.S.T. on 9/27/05 - modding ever since:

Daystar 2.0" Lift, P255/70R16 Revos, Boulder Bars, Reese Front Hitch w/9k Hooks, Poison Spyder Rock Ring, MOPAR Skids/Bug Shield/Roof Rails/Mats, WARN Hitch Shackle(Rear), 10k Hitch Hook(Front), Custom Tilt/Slope Meter, Ammo Box Mod, Rotella T 5W-40.

I received a set of shinny new extended Bump-stops from TerraFlex yesterday, I'm going to remove the Rustys spring spacers and install the TerraFlex OTT spacers and bump-stops tonight after work. I'll post some picts and let ya'll know how it rides, I'm impressed that they listened to me and did something about it

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2006 CRD Sport
MOPAR skid plates, RRO Rock Rails, tow hooks, JKS quck disconnects, 245/75R16LT Uniroyal Liberator A/Ts. OME790s and Rancho RSX17505 struts in the front OME948s and Rancho 17004s.
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Member ID Rockies 069661

Universeman -

Does your upper ball joint contact the spring at full droop?

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MikeP
L.O.S.T. #000202
2021 Compass

I haven't installed it yet but the OTT style lift does move the whole strut down 2 inches so this will also allow the suspension to drop 2 additional inches at full drop which I believe is the concirn I don't know if thats going to be an issue or not at this point but I'll check that and let you know, but my future plans are a Full HD OME lift (in addition to the TerraFlex lift) for a total of 3.5 inches of lift, RROs high angle CVs (still under development according to their web site) and an extended rear CV drive shaft, plus 2 inch rear bump stops with the appropriately extended shocks so in the end I will have 2 inches less up travel and around 3 inches additional down travel all around (I'm no expert so that figure is just a guesstiment) at any rate I would like to start a discussion about lifting the liberty beyond 2.5 inches and what can be done about the issues like the upper controll arm thing and so on.

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2006 CRD Sport
MOPAR skid plates, RRO Rock Rails, tow hooks, JKS quck disconnects, 245/75R16LT Uniroyal Liberator A/Ts. OME790s and Rancho RSX17505 struts in the front OME948s and Rancho 17004s.
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Member ID Rockies 069661

I just emailed RRO about those CV's, Glenn says they are having a hard time getting the manufacturer going on it, and he will talk to them, as well as meet them face to face at SEMA. So ask them around that time and perhaps we will know when they will be available.

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It may be that your only purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others.

06 CRD Sport
Built 5/11/06
Jeep Green
Rocklizard diff cover
V6 Airbox

You could save lots of wear and tear on the brain and wallet, talk to Al at www.jeepinbyal.com. He builds stuff that will help you on your quest and can answer some of your question on bigger lifts as he is in the works with one on his Liberty.

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No one knows as much as all of us.

Well I tried to install the OTT spacers and I ran into some problems, basically it was a fitment issue, when I installed the strut with the spacer installed everything was moved down 2 inches and I was unable to force the lower fork mount into place to put it back together(I suppose if you have experience installing an OTT lift you know what I'm talking about other wise just read yadda yadda yadda didn’t fit ok got it) but to be more detailed what I ran into was (1) the bottom of the strut was hitting the CV shaft(it at least appeared that way trying to put it together), (2) the angle of the strut was changed causing the lower fork mount to shift outward away from its mounting point, (3) the upper A arm ball joint was contacting the spring, (4) and finally I had issues pushing the lower A arm down far enough as well.
I guess my biggest thing here is that with the spacer lift everything went back together slick as snot (I can install my spacer lift in under 2 hours, that’s the whole thing start to finish) but I fought this OTT lift for 3 hours on one strut and decided it wasn’t worth it, that’s not to say Terraflex didn’t make a good OTT lift, its just that that these are inherent issues with this style of lift and not they are not insurmountable either as lots of people run with this type of lift and as I originally pointed out to Terraflex the bump stop issue was the real show stopper and they now they’re included with the kit and I'll freely admit that my issues were more due to my lack of experience installing lifts kits (this is my first lift install) but basically the spacer lift I have on now works just fine so I'm gonna leave it the way it is.
BTW if anyone wants to buy the front OTT part of this lift (which includes the front bumpstop extensions) feel free to contact me and we can discuss a very reasonable price for it.(I'm thinking $50 plus shipping)

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2006 CRD Sport
MOPAR skid plates, RRO Rock Rails, tow hooks, JKS quck disconnects, 245/75R16LT Uniroyal Liberator A/Ts. OME790s and Rancho RSX17505 struts in the front OME948s and Rancho 17004s.
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Member ID Rockies 069661