The CRD Rocks.

Taz · **Posted:** Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:08 am

We have had a couple of below Zero days this week and the CRD has started without hesitation on each day parked outside, block heater not plugged in. It was kind of ironic that my Wife's gas powered vehicle would not start but the CRD did. I am running winter fuel with a -30 gel point. Even with some of the problems with the CRD this is still a pretty great motor.

action · **Posted:** Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:51 pm

I'm happy with mine....was working on my skidoo at my parents place, truck was parked on the street for 6 hours in -18 celcius (plus windchill), let the glow plug light go out and it started right up! Granted it made a god awful racket and had a little more vibration then normal for the first minuite, but thats to be expected!!!

elysium · **Posted:** Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:59 pm

My CRD scares me when it starts in the cold. It'll rev up to about 1200rpms and settles at 1000rpms for about 30 seconds and then drop to 800rpms. It sounds mean! :twisted:

Kniggit · **Posted:** Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:57 am

Thats why they are not Girly Jeeps, they sound real mean and manly at cold temps.

dieselenthusiast · **Posted:** Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:07 am

Same for me, I've had two start ups around the Zero mark without using the block heater and it fired right up with no problems. Pretty amazing!

DnA Diesel · **Posted:** Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:00 am

...yes, much nicer than my TDI!

elysium · **Posted:** Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:09 am

Or when ur in a tunnel and take it to 2000rpms and just let go of the throttle to hear the whoosh the turbo makes

elysium · **Posted:** Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:10 am

DnA Diesel I think we might have passed by eachother already around the Oshawa Clarington Region.. think it was in Courtice to be precise.

spoonplugger1 · **Posted:** Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:00 pm

That's what happens when you have an engine with a 23 to 1 compression ratio. When they get around to designing more variable compression engines we'll get more power also.

DnA Diesel · **Posted:** Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:44 pm

elysium wrote:

DnA Diesel I think we might have passed by eachother already around the Oshawa Clarington Region.. think it was in Courtice to be precise.

Jason, that could be...I find myself staring at the right read-ends of Liberty's looking for the CRD badge. I've been highway running between Barrie and Kingston, so that could very well have been me. Atlantic Blue with the black winter steelies on.

I have to say, I've always been a diesel nut, and the Liberty is not at all a bad machine...I like it alot. I've towed some things with it (albeit before F37) and is was amazing. The outward appearance of the Libby belies its strength. Folks will mistake it as being in the same class as RAV-4 or CR-V....nope. I've never seen a beffier uni-body vehicle than the Liberty.

I'm sure that when we get a decent TC, a nice Trans-Go kit in the tranny, and some nice InMotion PCM software, we'll be off to the races!

Cheers,
Duey

dieselenthusiast · **Posted:** Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:04 pm

DnA Diesel, thanks for the positive remarks concerning how you feel about your CRD. I think many of us enjoy the CRD a bunch even in the midst of the TC and Transmission chaos. I think many of us who are really upset blame the fact we really like it and had high expectations for the CRD, much higher than we could ever credit to a gasoline engine in the same application. Like you said, the CRD has many good things going for it. I just started a thread that has an optimistic outlook. http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/vie ... 794#162794
I hope you will take the time to read it and leave us some of your thoughts regarding the future for your CRD

spencevans · **Posted:** Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:11 pm

I have had several start up in the -40 F range with out using the block heater and it seems to fire up really easily. I think alot of it has to do with the Optima battery.

dieselenthusiast · **Posted:** Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:10 pm

That is definitely a valid point. I have wondered myself how much the Optima battery has added the cold start. When I bought the Jeep used I figured it was an aftermarket install, but as I looked closer it sure looked like a factory setup as the wiring and connections seemed too perfect for a swap out. My Cummins at zero degrees fires up but I can tell it takes all two batteries to getter done, and even at that, the interior and driving lights go dim. Running synthetic has made a difference in the ease of the start up. I guess 12 quarts of oil in that Cummins is a lot of oil to get warmed up. Needless to say, I called Optima technical department about 3 weeks ago and the tech said that the Optima would definitely aid the cold starting in my Cummins application without the need for electric battery blankets. On the flip side, the tech said that high heat is as hard if not harder on the battery than the cold temperatures. Optima has the best high heat range as well as the low end temperature range on the market.

oldnavy · **Posted:** Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:24 pm

dieselenthusiast wrote:

That is definitely a valid point. I have wondered myself how much the Optima battery has added the cold start. When I bought the Jeep used I figured it was an aftermarket install, but as I looked closer it sure looked like a factory setup as the wiring and connections seemed too perfect for a swap out. My Cummins at zero degrees fires up but I can tell it takes all two batteries to getter done, and even at that, the interior and driving lights go dim. Running synthetic has made a difference in the ease of the start up. I guess 12 quarts of oil in that Cummins is a lot of oil to get warmed up. Needless to say, I called Optima technical department about 3 weeks ago and the tech said that the Optima would definitely aid the cold starting in my Cummins application without the need for electric battery blankets. On the flip side, the tech said that high heat is as hard if not harder on the battery than the cold temperatures. Optima has the best high heat range as well as the low end temperature range on the market.

Yup they are about the best you can buy. I had one in the wife's Jetta and I even put one in my Magnum, because the Optima is ventless and the Magnum has the battery in the trunk in the back by the spare tire and not a good place for the fumes and spillage if one is concerned about corrosion for long term ownership.

Goglio704 · **Posted:** Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:54 am

oldnavy wrote:

dieselenthusiast wrote:

That is definitely a valid point. I have wondered myself how much the Optima battery has added the cold start. When I bought the Jeep used I figured it was an aftermarket install, but as I looked closer it sure looked like a factory setup as the wiring and connections seemed too perfect for a swap out. My Cummins at zero degrees fires up but I can tell it takes all two batteries to getter done, and even at that, the interior and driving lights go dim. Running synthetic has made a difference in the ease of the start up. I guess 12 quarts of oil in that Cummins is a lot of oil to get warmed up. Needless to say, I called Optima technical department about 3 weeks ago and the tech said that the Optima would definitely aid the cold starting in my Cummins application without the need for electric battery blankets. On the flip side, the tech said that high heat is as hard if not harder on the battery than the cold temperatures. Optima has the best high heat range as well as the low end temperature range on the market.

Yup they are about the best you can buy. I had one in the wife's Jetta and I even put one in my Magnum, because the Optima is ventless and the Magnum has the battery in the trunk in the back by the spare tire and not a good place for the fumes and spillage if one is concerned about corrosion for long term ownership.

I kinda wish the CRD had the battery in the back. I could easily find stuff to put in the void. :wink:

oldnavy · **Posted:** Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:09 pm

oldnavy wrote:

Yup they are about the best you can buy. I had one in the wife's Jetta and I even put one in my Magnum, because the Optima is ventless and the Magnum has the battery in the trunk in the back by the spare tire and not a good place for the fumes and spillage if one is concerned about corrosion for long term ownership.

I kinda wish the CRD had the battery in the back. I could easily find stuff to put in the void. :wink:

[/quote]Hey all it takes is copper cable and some clamps, should not be that big a deal if that is important. Puttng a ProVent there where battery is would be kind of nice, but EHM was easier. :roll:

Goglio704 · **Posted:** Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:15 pm

Does your Magnum have a negative cable all the way forward to the engine or does it just use the frame to carry the negative side?

oldnavy · **Posted:** Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:28 pm

Goglio704 wrote:

Does your Magnum have a negative cable all the way forward to the engine or does it just use the frame to carry the negative side?

Just the frame is all, no need for long ground cable in steel frame. I have a battery tender that connects to the battery for charging and it is connected in engine compartment at jump point on fuse box and where ground for engine connects to the frame. Works great. My Magnum sits in the garage a lot, sometimes for as much as 2 weeks w/o being used is the reason for the battery tender.

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