Oil Change Question(s)

bigiron · **Posted:** Sun Dec 17, 2006 8:29 pm

Ok, I'm about to do my first oil change. I've got Shell Rotella T 5W-40 Synthetic and a Motorcraft FL-2005 filter. I'm wondering what the part number is for the copper crush washer. Any help would be appreciated. I looked pretty hard through the forum but couldn't find a number. (I'll also be installing a Fumoto valve with adapter so I shouldn't have to worry about this washer anymore...right?)
Thanks for the help!

Joe Romas · **Posted:** Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:29 pm

bigiron.

A good parts store should have the copper washer but wou'll most likely need to take the old one in:D Re your Fumoto valve. I have one with the nipple for a hose and have almost decided not to put it on because of how far it will stick down. I may be paranoid but it looks too easy to get knocked off by snow goobers or whatever. Let alone any off roading :shock:

GregScuba · **Posted:** Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:02 pm

Copper crush washer, what?

no-blue-screen · **Posted:** Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:07 pm

I use mine 4 or 5 times before I replace them. Never had a problem....just make sure you don't overtighten the drain plug.

Pablo · **Joined:** Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:06 pm **Posts:** 1201

GregScuba wrote:

Copper crush washer, what?

The washer that goes on the drain plug before you insert it into the oil pan. It comes with the vehicle and it should be changed regularly. If it is not changed or if it is missing-- the seal will not be tight and you will have leaks.

bigiron · **Posted:** Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:19 pm

Joe,
Thanks for the heads-up about the drain valve. According to posters here, it shouldn't be a problem with light to moderate off-roading. I'm going to look at it once installed, and I'll just cut some of the nipple off if it hangs too low for my comfort. I think it's going to be a handy little mod though once installed.

On the washer, everyone talks about it, but I've never seen a part number. I would just like to have a number in case my dealer doesn't know what I'm talking about. (Which unfortunately is highly likely.)

Torque Monster · **Posted:** Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:08 am

bigiron wrote:

On the washer, everyone talks about it, but I've never seen a part number. I would just like to have a number in case my dealer doesn't know what I'm talking about. (Which unfortunately is highly likely.)

According to my 2005 parts list, the drain plug washer is:

Part No. 4720 353 WASHER, plain

Chris

bigiron · **Posted:** Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:16 am

Many thanks Chris.

ccattie · **Posted:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:22 am

Does anybody know the NAPA number or maybe dimensions? I dont want to take mine to NAPA because it means I'm gonna be walking there since I'll have to drain her to get to it.
-c

RTStabler51 · **Posted:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:29 am

Pablo wrote:

GregScuba wrote:

Copper crush washer, what?

The washer that goes on the drain plug before you insert it into the oil pan. It comes with the vehicle and it should be changed regularly. If it is not changed or if it is missing-- the seal will not be tight and you will have leaks.

I've never changed any of mine on any of the vehicles I've had, unless I've lost it.

BVCRD · **Posted:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:38 am

RTStabler51 wrote:

Pablo wrote:

GregScuba wrote:

Copper crush washer, what?

The washer that goes on the drain plug before you insert it into the oil pan. It comes with the vehicle and it should be changed regularly. If it is not changed or if it is missing-- the seal will not be tight and you will have leaks.

I've never changed any of mine on any of the vehicles I've had, unless I've L.O.S.T. it.

Me neither. Now, I always check it for cracks and the like, but so far all has been OK.

ccattie · **Posted:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:03 am

Mine is drippy and the stealership parts depts are closed when I get home.
-c

KJbob · **Posted:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:12 pm

I gotta tell ya, that Fumoto valve is really nice.

I went to a dealer to get a new washer and it installed perfectly.

It does hang down a bit but I haven't had any problems.

BVCRD · **Posted:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:22 pm

KJbob wrote:

I gotta tell ya, that Fumoto valve is really nice.

I went to a dealer to get a new washer and it installed perfectly.

It does hang down a bit but I haven't had any problems.

How long is the thing? I mean, who low does it hang down from the pan?

KJbob · **Posted:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:31 pm

BVCRD wrote:

KJbob wrote:

I gotta tell ya, that Fumoto valve is really nice.

I went to a dealer to get a new washer and it installed perfectly.

It does hang down a bit but I haven't had any problems.

How long is the thing? I mean, who low does it hang down from the pan?

I'm doing this from memory but I'd say maybe an inch, maybe two?

BVCRD · **Posted:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:36 pm

KJbob wrote:

BVCRD wrote:

KJbob wrote:

I gotta tell ya, that Fumoto valve is really nice.

I went to a dealer to get a new washer and it installed perfectly.

It does hang down a bit but I haven't had any problems.

How long is the thing? I mean, who low does it hang down from the pan?

I'm doing this from memory but I'd say maybe an inch, maybe two?

Well that's not as bad as I feared. I had heard talk of getting them knocked off when offroading, which we do a lot of out here. No mid skids to dampen the blow.

oldnavy · **Posted:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:29 pm

If you are doing any serious off roading you need to have the tranny skid to both protect the FUMOTO and the oil filter. The oil filter is pretty tough and would survive most mud or soft ground impacts, the FUMOTO would be ok in mud, but clumps or hard dirt could break it if hit hard enough. I would invest in the tranny skid even if only driving on gravel. Actually I would have the tranny & transfer case skids if it was never off the highway like ours. Road 'gators can be rough on a vehicle, one did $2000 damage to the Magnum this past December. Lucky fo me the oil filter is mounted above oil pan on front of engine, and the engine is high in the engine bay designed for 6.1L V8 and just had a couple of light tread marks on the pan. Needed some suspension parts, new lower engine cover, a/c condesor, front bumper, grill and front end alignment.

BVCRD · **Posted:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:04 pm

oldnavy wrote:

If you are doing any serious off roading you need to have the tranny skid to both protect the FUMOTO and the oil filter. The oil filter is pretty tough and would survive most mud or soft ground impacts, the FUMOTO would be ok in mud, but clumps or hard dirt could break it if hit hard enough. I would invest in the tranny skid even if only driving on gravel. Actually I would have the tranny & transfer case skids if it was never off the highway like ours. Road 'gators can be rough on a vehicle, one did $2000 damage to the Magnum this past December. Lucky fo me the oil filter is mounted above oil pan on front of engine, and the engine is high in the engine bay designed for 6.1L V8 and just had a couple of light tread marks on the pan. Needed some suspension parts, new lower engine cover, a/c condesor, front bumper, grill and front end alignment.

Are you speaking methaphorically, or did you actually hit a "gator"? You sig say swampeast? Are there gators in SE Missou?

oldnavy · **Posted:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:32 pm

BVCRD wrote:

oldnavy wrote:

If you are doing any serious off roading you need to have the tranny skid to both protect the FUMOTO and the oil filter. The oil filter is pretty tough and would survive most mud or soft ground impacts, the FUMOTO would be ok in mud, but clumps or hard dirt could break it if hit hard enough. I would invest in the tranny skid even if only driving on gravel. Actually I would have the tranny & transfer case skids if it was never off the highway like ours. Road 'gators can be rough on a vehicle, one did $2000 damage to the Magnum this past December. Lucky fo me the oil filter is mounted above oil pan on front of engine, and the engine is high in the engine bay designed for 6.1L V8 and just had a couple of light tread marks on the pan. Needed some suspension parts, new lower engine cover, a/c condesor, front bumper, grill and front end alignment.

Are you speaking methaphorically, or did you actually hit a "gator"? You sig say swampeast? Are there gators in SE Missou?

Hahahahah!!! No 'gator's that I know of, "road gators's" has always refered to semi-truck treads on the road way, first heard it called that in the '70's in SC of all places by a GA boy who I worked with at Ft Jackson. SE MO used to be a swamp before it was drained. I still remember the cypress tress and swamp rabbit hunting. The draining started durring the depression and was started back up in 60's I think and has been pretty much completed and all the swamp area's have been turned into farms for cotton and rice mostly. There are networks of drannage ditches/cannals and hold ponds all across this area. Thanks to the popularity of rice farming in this area the dreaded blood sucking mosquito is back with a vengence after almost disappearing in the late 60's to early '70's due to loss of habitat.

BVCRD · **Posted:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:56 pm

oldnavy wrote:

BVCRD wrote:

oldnavy wrote:

If you are doing any serious off roading you need to have the tranny skid to both protect the FUMOTO and the oil filter. The oil filter is pretty tough and would survive most mud or soft ground impacts, the FUMOTO would be ok in mud, but clumps or hard dirt could break it if hit hard enough. I would invest in the tranny skid even if only driving on gravel. Actually I would have the tranny & transfer case skids if it was never off the highway like ours. Road 'gators can be rough on a vehicle, one did $2000 damage to the Magnum this past December. Lucky fo me the oil filter is mounted above oil pan on front of engine, and the engine is high in the engine bay designed for 6.1L V8 and just had a couple of light tread marks on the pan. Needed some suspension parts, new lower engine cover, a/c condesor, front bumper, grill and front end alignment.

Are you speaking methaphorically, or did you actually hit a "gator"? You sig say swampeast? Are there gators in SE Missou?

Hahahahah!!! No 'gator's that I know of, "road gators's" has always refered to semi-truck treads on the road way, first heard it called that in the '70's in SC of all places by a GA boy who I worked with at Ft Jackson. SE MO used to be a swamp before it was drained. I still remember the cypress tress and swamp rabbit hunting. The draining started durring the depression and was started back up in 60's I think and has been pretty much completed and all the swamp area's have been turned into farms for cotton and rice mostly. There are networks of drannage ditches/cannals and hold ponds all across this area. Thanks to the popularity of rice farming in this area the dreaded blood sucking mosquito is back with a vengence after almost disappearing in the late 60's to early '70's due to loss of habitat.

Well I was wondering, you being close to Arkansas, and there are gators there. Mighta been some crawl up there. :shock:

I never been in your neck of the woods, and certainly never east of the Mississippi.

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