Yes, many of you have reported the value of CRD’s as you see them for sale on Dealer Lots and through the Internet, but I can tell you, when it comes to trading that bad boy in, you WILL take a hit. The best thing from a financial end is to sell it right out to a private owner. I couldn’t get myself to do that because I feel like the CRD is a long term financial disaster and a high maintained machine with lots of down time. I wasn’t going to sell someone my problems and feel bad for doing so. We chose to take the hit and work from the dealer side. We miss the CRD but do not miss the headaches. As for the 3.7L Liberty, we love it! And 15 years from now, the parts will be abundant, available, and affordable! There will also be lots of upgrades to choose from. I’d hate to see what the CRD will be like 15 years from now as parts might be harder to find [/quote][/quote]

I just ran the KBB blue book numbers for a:

CRD & V6 Limited - both with the same options except the engine of course, in excellent condition with 10k miles.

The CRD booked above $20k for trade in, while the V6 was at $18.8k.

Per KBB -- the argument that the CRDs are lower in value than the V6 Liberties is not true.

If there is doubt -- go to www.kbb.com and try it. The zip code I used was 98033.

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The folks: 2006 Liberty CRD Limited, Lt. Khaki (picked up 7/21/06 w/ 300 miles). Rotella 5W-40.

And: 1995 Grand Cherokee 4.0 Laredo, Silver, Selec-Trac, custom free-flow exhaust by local shop.

Me: 1998 Subaru Outback AWD, 2.5 DOHC, 5-speed manual. Nearly 170k miles & runs awesome.

offroadsubaru,
I most certainly agree that the CRD has a better trade-in value over the V6 Liberty. As a matter of fact, the CRD has gained much popular attention in relation to the current supply/demand. This “rare value” factored into the equation certainly equates to a quick sell for a high price from the Dealer’s Lot. Unfortunately the KBB does not include this so called rarity value. Something is worth only what someone is willing to pay. And People from all over the good ole’ U.S. of A. currently have paid a much higher price for a used CRD vs. a V6. A good priced used V6 may set on the Dealer’s Lot for months before selling whereas the used CRD of the same year and options might not last more than a week or two as many dealers have reported. A good option for a CRD owner is to advertise the CRD and sell to a private party. Due to the rarity, people seem to search the world wide web as their primary method of shopping for the CRD. For example, if forum rules allow, someone might have good luck advertising on this forum. I bought my used CRD by searching autotrader.com. I was initially trying to imply that if you bought the CRD new and decide to trade-in, I think you will be disappointed with the trade-in value. Obviously, any trade-in is a significant lose based upon the price you paid for it new. My dealer said he did not have the room to work with me on the trade-in as much as he did on a new Liberty. Every dealer is different, so perhaps you might have great success if you decide to do a trade-in.

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2015 Ram Ecodiesel/Big Horn/4x4/Quad Cab
2016 Arctic Fox 22G/Onboard 2500 LP Cummins Onan Generator/160 Watt Solar Panel

I took the road less traveled. Now I'm LOST.

THose are basically my thoughts. While I'm very frustrated with DC & have no intention of purchasing another of their products without improvement in quality and drastic improvement in customer support, I love my CRD, will do/pay what I must for a real fix, and intend to keep it for a long time to come. There's simply nothing else like it & I doubt anything competitive will come along any time soon, at least for our purposes. We even considered getting a second over the past month or so, although I think we'll settle for just one after all. I'm not too concerned about parts given that the engine has quite a bit of volume outside of the US & most everything else is shared with the ubiquitous gas Liberty while the rest of the drivetrain is also shared with other platforms.

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2006 Jeep Liberty Limited CRD w/275000 miles

I really hope a real fix will come about for you guys. I think it will with time. And I agree with BIOJEEP, nothing really compares to the CRD. We originally bought the CRD because #1. I’m a diesel enthusiast and #2. I liked the pulling power and fuel economy. The Liberty 2.8 CRD is rated @ 160 horsepower and 295 lbs-ft. of torque vs. the Liberty 3.7L V-6 is rated @ 210 hp and 235 lbs.-ft. of torque. We are in the midst of planning to buy an ultra-light travel trailer that the Liberty can pull. Once I discovered that the transmission and TC was weak and the F37 made it even weaker, we decided to trade-in on a 3.7L Liberty. The decision was made after the CRD had a history of being in the shop, inconsistent fuel mileage, poor EGR design, and we needed something reliable for constant pulling as we traveled. We didn’t want to wait to have a real fix. Since the CRD is limited to the same towing and hauling maximums as the 3.7L, we figured the gasser would just be fine. After all, the 3.7 Liberty has had a good grade card for lots of pulling with little/no problems.

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2015 Ram Ecodiesel/Big Horn/4x4/Quad Cab
2016 Arctic Fox 22G/Onboard 2500 LP Cummins Onan Generator/160 Watt Solar Panel

I took the road less traveled. Now I'm LOST.

As promised, I’m keeping you posted. We love the 07 gasser. I just ordered a shift kit from TransGo, this will be my first mechanical modification. We’re getting 20.5 mpg on the highway running 70 mph. Surprisingly, the 2007, 3.4L handles much like the CRD, except a little better. I like the heavy vehicle as it seems to be very stable compared to other lightweight vehicles. I miss the diesel concept behind the Liberty, but I don’t regret making the switch to the 3.7 as it seems to be much more reliable. If you’re looking for power and torque, don’t under estimate the 3.7, it’s a very powerful engine and can be modified to feel and perform like a V8. The modifications are endless. It’s been the number #1 selling SUV in it’s class forever, thus opening doors to the modification world. A new aftermarket torque converter is available for the 3.7. Reflashes and chips are available in numerous styles and configurations. The off road capabilities are endless for the gasser versions. So it’s exciting to be part of the gasser group. I hope there will be answers and replacement parts for all the CRD trany problems. The Liberty is a lot of fun when you don’t have to worry about being in the shop!

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2015 Ram Ecodiesel/Big Horn/4x4/Quad Cab
2016 Arctic Fox 22G/Onboard 2500 LP Cummins Onan Generator/160 Watt Solar Panel

I took the road less traveled. Now I'm LOST.

I chose the CRD over the IMO doggy 3.7 after driving both and I would do it again. I am just appy the one I bought was a 2006 and not a 2005.

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2006 Sport CRD

Could the Aztecs have known, that in 2012 after a 4 year experiment, our country would cease to exist?

Yes, I bought the CRD because I wanted a diesel! I love the way the CRD runs (so far I have had minimal problems other than the flashes and F37 recall), and the fuel economy can't be beat for an off-road capable SUV. That said, I would have chosen another small or mid-size 4X4 other than the Liberty if any had a diesel option. The Liberty is a little bit small for my tastes, particularly in cargo area. The front seating is very comfortable for me, but there is little space for anything else in the front area. I have a two-way radio in mine, and the radio itself had to be mounted under the front seat--no other place for it to fit.

My biggest complaint about the Liberty is inadequate ground clearance--especially when the IFS goes into full compression on a rough trail (when you need ground clearance the most). I'll probably go for the Frankenlift with the heavy duty CRD springs when those become available.

I still own a '98 Jeep Cherokee, too. There is no way I would ever have traded it for a gas Liberty. The Cherokee gets better fuel economy than a gas Liberty, and is far more off-road capable. Too bad the Cherokee was never sold in the US with a CRD option.

If I could have any diesel 4X4 right now, I would choose the Toyota Hi-Lux diesel 4x4 pickup that is available just about everywhere in the world, except North America. If that were available here, I'd trade the CRD (and the Cherokee) in a minute!

Once our CRD is lemoned, were done with any new DCX product. We were offered a replacement vehicle from DCX but the wife said no. Actually, it was more like "Ohh hell no!" Our lemon law attorney told us that he should be able to recover all of our payments since it's been in the shop so many darn times from an early milage, 421 miles on the odometer I believe it was. Were looking at possibly using that money to pay cash for an 01 XJ sport. This way we have no car payments. If not that, then the other alternative is a Toyota 4-Runner. The wife doesn't want to buy American anymore because of the headaches and the idiots behind the service counters at American Dealerships. If mama ain't happy, then ain't nobody happy.

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2005 Unlimited (LJ) Rubicon w/ 5.5" of total lift
Flat Fenders made by http://www.jpfaboffroad.com/

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin, 1759

That's weird because the KJ is more aerodynamic and has a way more efficient engine than the XJ. Even EPA ratings are better than the XJ. Even my aunt said that she never got over 20MPG in her 2000 XJ. I got as much as 24MPG out of my 3.7L KJ.

With that said, no, there never was a Common Rail Diesel for the XJ, but AMC did offer a Renault 2.1L? Diesel back in the late '80s.

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Me - '17 KL Trailhawk 4x4, Rhino, P245/65R17 Destination A/Ts, Stock Skids, waiting for mods...
Sis - '18 Cherokee Trailhawk 4x4 - Black - Dents - Scratches - STOCK

I wouldn’t go as far as to say that the Cherokee is far more off-road capable than the Liberty. First you must define what your qualifications are for determining off-road capability The Liberty has a better turning radius and better throttle response making it easier to modulate when creeping through rocky tight places and muddy terrain. The Liberty has good articulation as well as the fine tuned rack and pinion steering system which is nice for those challenging trails. The Liberty has better ground clearance 9.4 inch verses the 1998 Cherokee which has 7.8 inch. The Liberty has a 37.2 approach, 31.5 departure, and 21.8 breakover. The 1998 Cherokee has a 36.5 approach, 29.3 departure, and a 22.3 breakover. The Liberty’s ground clearance and higher air box allows for good water fording opportunities. I think all Jeeps have their time and place out on the trail. After a few modifications, the Liberty can do some serious off-roading

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2015 Ram Ecodiesel/Big Horn/4x4/Quad Cab
2016 Arctic Fox 22G/Onboard 2500 LP Cummins Onan Generator/160 Watt Solar Panel

I took the road less traveled. Now I'm LOST.

Hello, I'm a new member, just hooked up last night. I have a 2005 CRD Sport. I have put about 70K miles on it. At about 10K I took it into the dealer and did a flash per a TSB noted on some jeep forum. At about 20K or so got a load of bad fuel, drove through it in 2 days, no problems since. Got a recall notice on the torque converter, took it in and the dealer did whatever AND replaced my ball joints per a recall I did not know about, and I don't think I needed either. My vehicle runs great. Yesterday I was poking around the internet, went to the L.O.S.T. website and saw all the dissing of the CRD's, went to Jeep KJ Country and noticed similar comments. I burn biodiesel from the farm coop for the most part and use Mobil 1 Syn 0W-40 at 5K intervals. I have had a great experience with the CRD. I just bought my wife an 07 Honda Element EX. Nice car, but my CRD is much stronger feeling overall, engine is quicker, stops in a much shorter distance, seats are more comfortable, much better ground clearance, 4WD works better than the AWD on the Element in the woods. It may disintegrate tomorrow, but up to now it has been top notch. But, geez, you guys are getting me worried.

Don't listen to those guys, I have over 30,000 on it now and have had no problems at all. I LOVE my CRD!!!

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Feb/2006 Silver Sport 4x4 CRD

x2 I know all of my negativity is just me worrying about nothing. I'm still keeping mine.

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formaly 2005 CRD sport w/True Flow air filter

currently 2006 Dodge Ram Mega Cab 4X4 2500 CTD

Everytime we've done a poll - most people haven't had problems.
Although there are some good fixes here if you do start seeing problems.
(I don't think swapping it for a gasser is a fix, personally I wasn't impressed with the gas version) I love my Diesel.

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2005 CRD
stuff
Skeptic quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur

I couldn't be happier with mine. Only had an EGR issue as 15k. Last week I rolled over to 30K and the beast is starting to feel like she is has finally broken in.

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Mike
06 TJ
#MB050033

Other toys:
A wife named Linda.
-2007 Goldwing complete with a 2003 Bushtec trailer.
-06 TJ.
www.farmersagent.com/mbeck1/

I get that feeling too, it seems to be loosening up.

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Feb/2006 Silver Sport 4x4 CRD

It certainly wasn’t my intention to make anyone worry about their CRD. This forum is intended to allow people to share knowledge and experiences about their rigs. Several of us who had the F37 recall were not satisfied. As you have noted, others throughout the forum have listed other miscellaneous problems as well. The fact is, some here have had their CRD in the shop more than they have had it out on the road. I think it is important to share those experiences. This forum is a support group. I don’t think there is a battle between which is better, the CRD or the 3.7. You can’t compare the two engines as gas and diesel are in two completely different categories. Their transmission and torque converter are also in two different categories. When we both see each other out on the trail, it really doesn’t matter who has a diesel or who as the gasser. It’s about enjoying your ride and having fun with other Liberty owners. I was one of those CRD owners who had problems. My wife and I decided the gasoline version would be best as we are moving back to New Mexico and needed a reliable vehicle. The CRD did not prove to be reliable for us. Three Jeep Dealerships didn’t provide us with hope either. As a matter of fact, the dealerships were discouraged with the lack of response DCX had provided them. But this was my experience. Some CRD owners on this forum have had nothing but positive experiences with the CRD which should be noted as well. Trust me, I love diesels, the CRD just didn’t make my cut. But my wife loved the Liberty enough to trade the CRD in for a gasoline version. After all, we will be living at 7,000 feet in mountainous terrain with a National Forest in our backyard and need the off-road capabilities. I drive my Cummins when I’m having a diesel craving

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2015 Ram Ecodiesel/Big Horn/4x4/Quad Cab
2016 Arctic Fox 22G/Onboard 2500 LP Cummins Onan Generator/160 Watt Solar Panel

I took the road less traveled. Now I'm LOST.

rzrbk901:

I dont think you need to be worried about having a problem, just be aware of what they are and how to recognize them. Be proactive, and eliminate the worry. This is true with any vehicle though.

Here is my CRD experience....25,000 miles...never been back to the dealer, never thrown a CEL, never gone into limp mode. I do experience a shudder after WOT acceleration, but am leaning towards an air in the fuel line problem as it SEEMS (still not 100% certain) to go away after I bleed the filter assy.

I went into this knowing that the CCV system is not a good design. Do something about it.

I have learned here that the MAF sensor should probably be cleaned periodically and that the gasser airbox and snorkel will keep water out of your intake. As soon as I am out of warranty the EGR will be disabled, and I may get a good torque converter when one comes available just for my peace of mind. Maybe the CRD isnt for everyone, but if you know about the potential problems and their causes you can take a few simple preventive measures and I believe it will make your CRD last a long time.

Its a shame a lot of people couldnt depend on the dealer/DC to fix their problems. Perhaps the tone of this board would be a lot different if they could have.

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It may be that your only purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others.

06 CRD Sport
Built 5/11/06
Jeep Green
Rocklizard diff cover
V6 Airbox

Well, knocking on wood...I haven't had any problems with mine other than a vibration when brand new. I have had the shudder but, I haven't had it for a long time now since I cleaned the boost pressure sensor and disconnected the battery to reset the computer.

As for KBB, the value on mine with 11k miles in the 20723 zip code is $23,410 for excellent private party. I only paid 23k for it brand new.

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06.5 Jetta TDI PKG 2 - Silver/Anth

I've generally had the same experience over 37,500 miles. Then again we shouldn't have any real problems when the vehicle is new. I'll be a real believer if my CRD goes 125k without any major issues.

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2006 Liberty Limited CRD Bright Silver Metallic (NOW SOLD)
All Recalls Performed
100k extended warranty
Fumoto Oil Drain Valves (Oil Pan & Transfer Case)
V6 Airbox Mod
New Driveshaft, New EGR
2003 Wrangler Sport 4.0L, Bright Blue
2007 Wrangler Sahara Unlimited 4 Door, Red Rock Crystal Pearl WOW!!!