NEW! SHIFT KIT!

dieselenthusiast · **Posted:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:10 pm

Well, I am the lucky guinea pig. I ordered the NEW Shift “correction” Kit from APS for my 07 Liberty that caters to the 42RLE. It is designed and made by TransGO. Right now it’s considered to be the complete Kit with no immediate plans for modifications. Wayne from APS seemed to think the 42RLE was better built (a little more solid) than the older 45RFE. I’m trying to remember his exact words, but something of that nature. Either way he seemed to believe that the 42RLE shift kit did not need as much refinement as the kit for the 45RFE. However, if necessary, all further refining or upgrades will be built on top of this existing Kit if needed. It’s NEW, so keep that in mind!

dirtykj · **Posted:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:16 pm

Probably voids the warranty on just about everything huh? New chip I take it?

JJsTJ · **Posted:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:51 pm

Valve body mods needed or ?? I anxiously await more details and a performance report.

dieselenthusiast · **Posted:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:26 pm

dirtykj wrote:

Probably voids the warranty on just about everything huh? New chip I take it?

I have no clue about the warranty. I’m sure there are ways around it. Reinstall the old guts if you have to and the stealership wont have a clue. The Shift Kit will improve the transmission overall performance and longevity. It’s a must for me! I do way too much mountain driving to avoid this inexpensive but effective upgrade. And, NO CHIP, this is the real deal, all the work is done in the valve body.

JJsTJ · **Posted:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:56 pm

Well hurry up already! Get it done and LUK how it works! :wink:

dieselenthusiast · **Posted:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:15 pm

JJsKJ wrote:

Valve body mods needed or ?? I anxiously await more details and a performance report.

Wayne said it will shift (lock in) much more efficiently. The response is better (quicker). I’m hopeful that a little mpg increase might be seen. The TransGo kit combined with the new TC will be bonified!

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:18 pm

YESSSS!!!

Ive been wanting one of these to come out!

Now the big question is, do I take the chance of voiding the warranty? What happens if Im traveling somewhere and cannot put the old valve train back in?

Keep it in the trunk? :lol:

I cannot stand how this thing shifts! Wonder if it will change the shift points any?

gone_jeepin · **Posted:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:25 pm

What exactly does it do???

dieselenthusiast · **Posted:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:30 pm

Jeepjeepster wrote:

YESSSS!!!

Ive been wanting one of these to come out!

Now the big question is, do I take the chance of voiding the warranty? What happens if Im traveling somewhere and cannot put the old valve train back in?

Keep it in the trunk? :lol:

I cannot stand how this thing shifts! Wonder if it will change the shift points any?

It’s new, so Wayne didn’t have all the scoop on it. He said to call TransGo if you wanted more detail. Hey, the new TC is available as well. He cut me a really good deal on the shift kit, so you may want to get your order in. He’s wanting feedback so that’s why he gave me the $price cut$.

07Latitude · **Posted:** Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:43 pm

I would assume this is similar to TransGo's other kits for other vehicles.

A few buddys with w-body GM vehicles have TransGo kits in their cars. It eliminates some of the factory-designed transmission shifting slip for tighter, more precise shifting. A shift kit that "bangs" gears is detrimental to the trans, as is a trans which has a lot of slip (i.e. a VERY smooth shifting trans). A nice firm shift is the best combination for performance AND longevity on a daily-driven vehicle.

As far as what goes into the install, I'm not sure as I've never dealt with one of their kits specifically. However, at least with the GM products, they're a well-respected company with a well-respected product.

My $0.02

dieselenthusiast · **Posted:** Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:39 am

Jeepjeepster wrote:

YESSSS!!!

Ive been wanting one of these to come out!

Now the big question is, do I take the chance of voiding the warranty? What happens if Im traveling somewhere and cannot put the old valve train back in?

Keep it in the trunk? :lol:

I cannot stand how this thing shifts! Wonder if it will change the shift points any?

I’m with ya buddy.

The Liberty is very sloppy and the Torque Converter doesn‘t help the situation. I think this shift kit and the new TC will give the Liberty a more complete feel regardless your towing needs, off roading adventures, street rod performance, or cruising down the interstate. :wink:

Many automotive buyers do not realize that these transmissions have been chosen and designed for super smooth shifts. Smooth is suppose to make you feel like it’s top notch luxurious technology. It’s suppose to make you feel good. But those of us who have been educated in the area of transmission building verses transmission marketing realize that the winner always goes to the luxury class. Kinda like the diesel concept. In America we don’t associate sleekness, luxury, efficiency, and performance with a diesel engine. But it’s simply a stereotype. Diesels, if built right, are a lot more efficient, have a lot more torque, last a whole lot longer, while providing a lot better mileage gains over the gasoline version. For example, my Dodge 6 cylinder, Cummins Diesel, 4X4, Quad Cab gets 24 mpg on the highway running 70 mph. I still have modifications to do that will put me over 26 mpg running 70 mph. Not to mention power, It can pull your house off it’s foundation. :shock:

Our transmissions are in the same stereotypical boat. Transmissions are suppose to shift firm which in return provides us with better overall efficiency and longevity. So again, we are dealing with stereotypes. Once you’ve had a shift kit, it’s hard to get back into a factory setup. So this is why many of us seem a little “overly” excited about this new opportunity to complete our Liberty’s the way we want them! :wink:

dirtykj · **Posted:** Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:17 am

In almost two years my warannty should expire. I'm game

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:38 am

So they've got a new torque converter also! I thought you were talking about a transfer case. :lol:

Whats different about the new TC? Higher stall? Would it be tighter?

What kinda price are we looking at?

KY Liberty · **Joined:** Sat Jul 09, 2005 1:46 pm **Posts:** 1195

Usually APS will set up the torque converter how you want it. I had them raise my stall to around 2500 rpm, and my torque multiplication from 1.93:1 to 2.53:1 for my 45rfe. You are going to want a B&G flash with these upgrades to get the full benefit. Also, the torque converter will take about 5000 miles to break in. Their torque converters are also more efficient. Typically slightly more efficient than the stock manual. If the shift kit for the 42rle, works similarly to the better of the 2 kits they have for the 45rfe, you guys are going to be very happy. It made my 1-2 shift quicker, and my 2-3 shift much quicker. It locks up much better also. Downshifts are much faster and better now too.

It's really fun to be able to launch at 2500 rpm and instantly be in the power band. It's hard on the tires if I launch higher than that, but it's really funny to see people grabbing for the "Oh crap!" handle as it roasts both rear tires all the way through 1st and 2nd. If you're off roading or doing heavy towing, I think you'll want a lower stall.

unixxx · **Posted:** Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:27 pm

Quote:

Wayne from APS seemed to think the 42RLE was better built (a little more solid) than the older 45RFE. I’m trying to remember his exact words, but something of that nature.

From what I've read, generally the model numbers work as follows:

4 4-> available speeds (4,5,6)
2 5-> torque rating (0,1,2,5,7,8 )
R R-> drive wheels (rear)
L -> orientation (longitudinal, transverse)
E FE -> control system (electronic, full electronic)

This would suggest that the 45RFE is a stronger transmission. The 45RFE is in fact a truck transmission while the 42RLE is a car transmission. By the way, I do have the 42RLE and can't wait to install the kit

Let us know how it goes.

KY Liberty · **Joined:** Sat Jul 09, 2005 1:46 pm **Posts:** 1195

For you guys asking about the warranty, the Magnuson Moss act of 1975 states that a manufacturer can not void a warranty because of a modification unless they can prove the modification caused the failure, or state in the warranty or manual that such a modification will void the warranty. Then they do not have to honor that specific problem. Any time a dealership has looked at my Jeep and started to act like they weren't going to cover a warranty issue, I just remind them of the Magnuson Moss act and they shut up instantly.

f1paul · **Joined:** Mon Aug 22, 2005 10:38 pm **Posts:** 20

this is the product i was waiting for to be released. awesome , please let us know, once installed, what you think.

Boi1ermaker · **Joined:** Tue Jan 24, 2006 1:44 pm **Posts:** 249

dieselenthusiast (or anybody else), have you received/installed this kit yet?

I sent an email to aps precision two weeks ago and received no response. Called at the end of last week, couldn't leave a message because the voicemail box was full. Guess they were on vacation, but that explains why i didn't receive a response to my email. Called again this past Monday, spoke directly to Wayne at APS. We talked for a few minutes and he seems like a nice guy. Asked me to send him an email with my info and he'd get back to me. Friday afternoon and still no response.

KY Liberty · **Joined:** Sat Jul 09, 2005 1:46 pm **Posts:** 1195

Wayne's always very busy and a little hard to get hold of. He goes to lots of events. However, in my experience, their products are excellent and they get them shipped to you very fast once you order them.

Boi1ermaker · **Joined:** Tue Jan 24, 2006 1:44 pm **Posts:** 249

Normally i wouldn't bother to chase down a vendor, but if aps has a good track record, i'll give Wayne another call on Monday and see what happens. I was all but ready to order when i first talked to Wayne, but he said he needed to get some info on the kit first and he'd get back to me. I have some regular maintenance to perform soon, so i was hoping to get the kit in time to do it all at once.

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