Cat 2 Micron Filter Adapter

Ranger1 · **Joined:** Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:40 pm **Posts:** 1137

I'm guessing that this adapter replaces the oem double threaded one with the allen pattern inside? Or does the adapter bolt on to the existing oem thread into the fuel head?

chadhargis · **Posted:** Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:23 pm

What do you do with the WIF sensor??

LanduytG · **Joined:** Sun Dec 11, 2005 6:59 am **Posts:** 188

chadhargis wrote:

What do you do with the WIF sensor??

Tie it up out of the way and forget about it.

greg

oldnavy · **Posted:** Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:43 pm

chadhargis wrote:

What do you do with the WIF sensor??

Stick it in a bucket of water and see it it can detect that much water, mine can't detect squat. :lol:

It is a worthless POS anyway.

If you guys follow the directions I don't see how you would have any leaks. I am still convinced many here are over tiightening the filter and thus the thing leaks around the plastic. It only requires about 3/4 turn after making contact with sealing surface to have proper seal. If you over tighten the fuel filter you can crush the seal between the plastic and the aluminum filter head causing leaks.

BVCRD · **Posted:** Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:56 pm

oldnavy wrote:

chadhargis wrote:

What do you do with the WIF sensor??

Stick it in a bucket of water and see it it can detect that much water, mine can't detect squat. :lol:

It is a worthless POS anyway.

If you guys follow the directions I don't see how you would have any leaks. I am still convinced many here are over tiightening the filter and thus the thing leaks around the plastic. It only requires about 3/4 turn after making contact with sealing surface to have proper seal. If you over tighten the fuel filter you can crush the seal between the plastic and the aluminum filter head causing leaks.

I did good to get mine 3/4 turn. More like 5/8. Maybe the gasket was stiff from cold. Still have air in my weekly bleed session.

LanduytG · **Joined:** Sun Dec 11, 2005 6:59 am **Posts:** 188

BVCRD wrote:

oldnavy wrote:

chadhargis wrote:

What do you do with the WIF sensor??

Stick it in a bucket of water and see it it can detect that much water, mine can't detect squat. :lol:

It is a worthless POS anyway.

If you guys follow the directions I don't see how you would have any leaks. I am still convinced many here are over tiightening the filter and thus the thing leaks around the plastic. It only requires about 3/4 turn after making contact with sealing surface to have proper seal. If you over tighten the fuel filter you can crush the seal between the plastic and the aluminum filter head causing leaks.

I did good to get mine 3/4 turn. More like 5/8. Maybe the gasket was stiff from cold. Still have air in my weekly bleed session.

If you don't have any start or run issues then air does not matter. Also in a vacuum system you will always have a certain amount of air, thats just how vacuum systems are.

Greg

BVCRD · **Posted:** Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:41 pm

LanduytG wrote:

BVCRD wrote:

oldnavy wrote:

chadhargis wrote:

What do you do with the WIF sensor??

Stick it in a bucket of water and see it it can detect that much water, mine can't detect squat. :lol:

It is a worthless POS anyway.

If you guys follow the directions I don't see how you would have any leaks. I am still convinced many here are over tiightening the filter and thus the thing leaks around the plastic. It only requires about 3/4 turn after making contact with sealing surface to have proper seal. If you over tighten the fuel filter you can crush the seal between the plastic and the aluminum filter head causing leaks.

I did good to get mine 3/4 turn. More like 5/8. Maybe the gasket was stiff from cold. Still have air in my weekly bleed session.

If you don't have any start or run issues then air does not matter. Also in a vacuum system you will always have a certain amount of air, thats just how vacuum systems are.

Greg

Never had any run issues. Only concerns after hearing guys talk about air in there, and their fuel heater electronics frying because so much air, they basically fried from lack of fuel lubrication.

LanduytG · **Joined:** Sun Dec 11, 2005 6:59 am **Posts:** 188

BVCRD wrote:

LanduytG wrote:

BVCRD wrote:

oldnavy wrote:

chadhargis wrote:

What do you do with the WIF sensor??

Stick it in a bucket of water and see it it can detect that much water, mine can't detect squat. :lol:

It is a worthless POS anyway.

If you guys follow the directions I don't see how you would have any leaks. I am still convinced many here are over tiightening the filter and thus the thing leaks around the plastic. It only requires about 3/4 turn after making contact with sealing surface to have proper seal. If you over tighten the fuel filter you can crush the seal between the plastic and the aluminum filter head causing leaks.

I did good to get mine 3/4 turn. More like 5/8. Maybe the gasket was stiff from cold. Still have air in my weekly bleed session.

If you don't have any start or run issues then air does not matter. Also in a vacuum system you will always have a certain amount of air, thats just how vacuum systems are.

Greg

Never had any run issues. Only concerns after hearing guys talk about air in there, and their fuel heater electronics frying because so much air, they basically fried from lack of fuel lubrication.

Well the only way to flood the heater is have a pressure system. I have never seen a heater in the top. All of them I've seen are in the bottom or run down the center. But I think the only way it could burn up is if the key was left on without the motor running. It could call for heater but without the motor running you don't have fuel going through to keep it cool.

Greg

BVCRD · **Posted:** Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:50 pm

LanduytG wrote:

BVCRD wrote:

LanduytG wrote:

BVCRD wrote:

oldnavy wrote:

chadhargis wrote:

What do you do with the WIF sensor??

Stick it in a bucket of water and see it it can detect that much water, mine can't detect squat. :lol:

It is a worthless POS anyway.

If you guys follow the directions I don't see how you would have any leaks. I am still convinced many here are over tiightening the filter and thus the thing leaks around the plastic. It only requires about 3/4 turn after making contact with sealing surface to have proper seal. If you over tighten the fuel filter you can crush the seal between the plastic and the aluminum filter head causing leaks.

I did good to get mine 3/4 turn. More like 5/8. Maybe the gasket was stiff from cold. Still have air in my weekly bleed session.

If you don't have any start or run issues then air does not matter. Also in a vacuum system you will always have a certain amount of air, thats just how vacuum systems are.

Greg

Never had any run issues. Only concerns after hearing guys talk about air in there, and their fuel heater electronics frying because so much air, they basically fried from lack of fuel lubrication.

Well the only way to flood the heater is have a pressure system. I have never seen a heater in the top. All of them I've seen are in the bottom or run down the center. But I think the only way it could burn up is if the key was left on without the motor running. It could call for heater but without the motor running you don't have fuel going through to keep it cool.

Greg

I see what you are saying. A couple of guys on here had theirs fry. The suspect was an air pocket in there that kept the heater dry while running. Had fuel seeping out of the electrical conection and one was smoking fuel.

Ripster · **Posted:** Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:43 pm

Ok I give, where do I order Old Navy, must have missed that post.

LanduytG · **Joined:** Sun Dec 11, 2005 6:59 am **Posts:** 188

Ripster wrote:

Ok I give, where do I order Old Navy, must have missed that post.

Right here.
http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/vie ... hp?t=20134

Greg

oldnavy · **Posted:** Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:58 pm

Ripster wrote:

Ok I give, where do I order Old Navy, must have missed that post.

Look at the bottom of Greg's last post. Buy you books, send you to school and you come home spelling taters with a P. :wink:

Hey the new adaptor is installed and Cat filter on and Jeep is running, will see if it holds vacuum overnight and starts tomorrow morning. If so we are good to go. Just so you jnow it took me 30 minutes.

Ripster · **Posted:** Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:03 pm

Thanks, as so often, the minute I posted I saw the other thread. :oops:

What is a trip without a bit of excitement. Looks like semis running over
cars stopped for construction is what I will have to watch out for.

oldnavy · **Posted:** Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:13 am

At 5:45 am, a little more then 12 hours of sitting after being shut off and it started w/o missing a lick.

Now for future reference one needs to remember to put a drain hose over the bleeder valve to prevent spraying fuel all over engine. :roll:

Will post more details after I take the Jeep to carwash. :oops:

Anyway I am suppose to meet one of the techs for breakfast at about 630, so I will be back in about 2 hours an post a full report of the install. No I didn't take pictures, I didn't want to have diesel fuel all over the camera. Ok, ok, so I just had a senior moment and forgot the camera, get over it dudes. :wink:

Maybe I will take a picture of it installed when I get back. Will that help??? :wink:

MOSFET · **Joined:** Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:40 pm **Posts:** 295

A picture is worth a thousand words.

oldnavy · **Posted:** Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:23 am

Her it is. Wife is off and running with the Jeep at present. Will post more but concrete crew is here now.

BVCRD · **Posted:** Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:24 pm

oldnavy wrote:

At 5:45 am, a little more then 12 hours of sitting after being shut off and it started w/o missing a lick.

Now for future reference one needs to remember to put a drain hose over the bleeder valve to prevent spraying fuel all over engine. :roll:

Will post more details after I take the Jeep to carwash. :oops:

Anyway I am suppose to meet one of the techs for breakfast at about 630, so I will be back in about 2 hours an post a full report of the install. No I didn't take pictures, I didn't want to have diesel fuel all over the camera. Ok, ok, so I just had a senior moment and forgot the camera, get over it dudes. :wink:

Maybe I will take a picture of it installed when I get back. Will that help??? :wink:

I did the drain hose a couple of times. Now, I just use an old sock and hold it over the nipple. It catches what comes out and keeps it from dripping around the top of the filter so you can tell if you have a leak or not.

midwest · **Joined:** Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:03 am **Posts:** 173

How many miles do you plan on running this filter before replacing?

oldnavy · **Posted:** Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:54 pm

midwest wrote:

How many miles do you plan on running this filter before replacing?

After 15,000 miles on a VW 1.9L TDI I had only used about a 1/3 of the filtrer, see picture below. This filter was running fuel from same fuel center that Greg tested my fuel from the CRD prior to making the adaptor.

Since this filter was designed for a Cat V8 diesel, I imagine if you are buying crappy/dirty fuel you should get an easy 15,000 miles out of the filter at least. Probably 20,000 miles if the service pump has a filter to get te big stuff before it goes into your tank.

Cowcatcher · **Posted:** Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:34 am

Did you remove the head for the install OldNavy?

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