For all you gas Nazi's out there!

pokefan · **Posted:** Wed May 16, 2007 5:23 pm

Here's an article about "Gas Myths" featured on Yahoo today.

Quote:

Removing excess weight from your car can also help save you gas.

They callin' me FAT!? :evil:

carroll952 · **Posted:** Wed May 16, 2007 5:40 pm

pokefan wrote:

Here's an article about "Gas Myths" featured on Yahoo today.

Quote:

Removing excess weight from your car can also help save you gas.

They callin' me FAT!? :evil:

Lol, yeah there are so many myths. Even the one about "boycott gas on a such and such day."

I only wish gas here was the "nat'l average" :cry:

pokefan · **Posted:** Wed May 16, 2007 5:50 pm

carroll952 wrote:

I only wish gas here was the "nat'l average" :cry:

ME TOO! Cheap here in town was 3.14 today!

The A/C one got me though, I was for sure that cut down on your mpg...

carroll952 · **Posted:** Wed May 16, 2007 5:57 pm

pokefan wrote:

carroll952 wrote:

I only wish gas here was the "nat'l average" :cry:

ME TOO! Cheap here in town was 3.14 today!

The A/C one got me though, I was for sure that cut down on your mpg...

3.14 is pretty darn good lol. I think I paid like 3.50 a couple days ago :cry:

Yeah I run my A/C all the time. I've lived in Hawaii and now SoCal with my KJ so it gets hot. Never noticed any difference when I didn't have it on during the winter.

Although maybe snow like this affected my fuel ecnomy

If you can believe it, that's Albuquerque, NM after 22 inches of snow. (Gas was cheap there though)

Justin

riptricket · **Posted:** Wed May 16, 2007 8:57 pm

got my gas today for $3.01! and the gimmicks are just that... gimmicks

Dje Ryu · **Posted:** Wed May 16, 2007 9:03 pm

I'm glad I live close to the source, sometimes. I paid 2.93 (iirc) but, it still took $45 and change to fill up. As for saving gas, my mom told me the only thing that I've ever noticed making much difference: Drive like you have an egg between your foot and the gas pedal. Don't know how true it is but, I've pinched many miles off of fumes in just about everything I've ever driven.

SavageUrge · **Posted:** Wed May 16, 2007 9:49 pm

Personally I think that Consumer Reports is corrupt as all get out, but that's my personal conspiracy theory. Needless to say I don't trust a word they say. Modern A/C systems are efficeint enough to be run with no significant drop in mileage, or you can have your windows open - neither will make a noticeable difference. The whole weight factor is negligible as well, it would only really make a difference if you are towing or somehow significantly increasing your wind resistance, such as with a roof rack. I personally lost almost 2.5 mpg with my roof rack mounted - that came off quickly! Of course the best way to control fuel consumption is to drive with a light foot. My contribution to this thread is to use SeaFoam and keep yer ingine clean! Suck it up, let 'er soak and drive it like ya stole it for about 2 miles! I received a consistent gain of 2 miles per gallon according to my EVIC. Where I couldn't get over 260 miles per tank since last summer when prices jumped, I have gotten over 300 for the last 3 tanks (18.5 gallons). Last I paid for gas, it was $2.98/gallon here in Upstate/Western New York.

trailpixie · **Posted:** Thu May 17, 2007 9:25 am

SavageUrge wrote:

Personally I think that Consumer Reports is corrupt as all get out, but that's my personal conspiracy theory. Needless to say I don't trust a word they say. Modern A/C systems are efficeint enough to be run with no significant drop in mileage, or you can have your windows open - neither will make a noticeable difference.

Consumer Reports studies were agreeing with what you say.

All in all, the article looked sensible. I really need to get used to taking my highway trips at 65 mph instead of 75 mph. Who cares if I get there 10 or 15 minutes faster. Would I take 15 minutes longer on a 200 mile trip to save a few bucks. Absolutely!

jcphoto20 · **Joined:** Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:36 am **Posts:** 507

i wouldnt trust anything from CNN, but that was a pretty USELESS article, and a complete waste of time.

pokefan · **Posted:** Thu May 17, 2007 10:14 am

jcphoto20 wrote:

but that was a pretty USELESS article, and a complete waste of time.

You like to stir things up don't you?

I know this was a common knowledge article and most of us probably said "duh"! but how many times a week do you see someone new get on and ask have any of you tried this doohikeywatchamacallit?

It was intended to add to all of the people that are constantly trying to tell people that the KJ is set up how it should be, the only way to save on gas is to use a light foot.

jcphoto20 · **Joined:** Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:36 am **Posts:** 507

sorry, i dont hablas what you were trying to get across with that last one.

pokefan · **Posted:** Thu May 17, 2007 10:21 am

it wasn't USELESS and a complete waste of time for some.

....n/m

SavageUrge · **Posted:** Thu May 17, 2007 10:33 am

trailpixie wrote:

SavageUrge wrote:

Personally I think that Consumer Reports is corrupt as all get out, but that's my personal conspiracy theory. Needless to say I don't trust a word they say. Modern A/C systems are efficeint enough to be run with no significant drop in mileage, or you can have your windows open - neither will make a noticeable difference.

Consumer Reports studies were agreeing with what you say.

On this particular article yes, but then again, IMO most of that stuff was common sense. I just had to get my digs in on CR, you know, to make myself feel better and vent a little :roll:

dgeist · **Posted:** Thu May 17, 2007 10:56 am

SavageUrge wrote:

trailpixie wrote:

SavageUrge wrote:

Personally I think that Consumer Reports is corrupt as all get out, but that's my personal conspiracy theory. Needless to say I don't trust a word they say. Modern A/C systems are efficeint enough to be run with no significant drop in mileage, or you can have your windows open - neither will make a noticeable difference.

Consumer Reports studies were agreeing with what you say.

On this particular article yes, but then again, IMO most of that stuff was common sense. I just had to get my digs in on CR, you know, to make myself feel better and vent a little :roll:

On average, they tend to try to be unbiased for the common man. I'll take their advice on vacuum cleaners and laundry detergent, but on stuff like cars, electronics, etc, there are intangibles that are just not able to be quantified by a group of "semi" experts at CR. Look at the debacle with the fuel economy tests. Honestly, anyone who actually understood modern fuel injected engine systems would have been able to prevent that one...

Guest · **Posted:** Thu May 17, 2007 11:13 am

Here's a rather informative article about the true causes of gas prices, called "Gasbags".
http://www.taxpayersleague.org/NewIssues/Gasbags/GASBAGS.htm

jcphoto20 · **Joined:** Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:36 am **Posts:** 507

i just wish all the people behind ethanol would get the heck off of it. its a seriously bad idea on so many levels. from corn producers not being able to supply anything close to what we would need to make ANY difference at all, to the water table disappearing in main farm areas... etc

no hybrids either, with their batteries that cost more than a new engine for your car, how often do they need to be replaced?

while im on it, cant we get the MTBE out of the gas? it says right on the pump that it is dangerous to you and the environment.

the only smart gas mileage solution right now is to get a turbo diesel, with propane, water and alcohol injection, you can get 30-40mpg out of just about anything.

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Thu May 17, 2007 11:34 am

jcphoto20 wrote:

i just wish all the people behind ethanol would get the heck off of it. its a seriously bad idea on so many levels. from corn producers not being able to supply anything close to what we would need to make ANY difference at all, to the water table disappearing in main farm areas... etc

no hybrids either, with their batteries that cost more than a new engine for your car, how often do they need to be replaced?

while im on it, cant we get the MTBE out of the gas? it says right on the pump that it is dangerous to you and the environment.

the only smart gas mileage solution right now is to get a turbo diesel, with propane, water and alcohol injection, you can get 30-40mpg out of just about anything.

So you mean to put my father and myself,with about 1000 other farmers from my home area in the poor house?Not to mention the 1000's of other farmers growing corn and are invested in ethanol plants all over the country.Ethanol is our life blood,heck the mid grade gas is cheaper then regular unleaded back in SD because it contains 10% ethanol.

GilaMonster · **Posted:** Thu May 17, 2007 12:08 pm

Another gas saving myth is leaving the tailgate down on a truck on the highway
http://www.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/highlights/2007/0705uplands_e.html

Hey tjkj2002, I don't want to see you or others suffer economically, but ethanol is hydroscopic and far more corrosive than gas, so it is never going to be pumped through our current fuel infrastructure. So, it is going to take more fuel (rail and trucks) to deliver it to gas stations than the current delivery system via the main pipelines. It is going to take alot of capital to change the infrastructure.
http://science.netscape.com/story/2006/07/07/ethanols-corrosive-little-secret/?whovoted=all
http://www.api.org/aboutoilgas/sectors/pipeline/upload/pipelineethanolshipmentfinal.doc
http://www.ethanolrfa.org/objects/documents/111/4788.pdf

The simple answer is our population, production and GDP has grown significantly since the 70's but not ONE refinery has been built since that period. Hence, no additional supply to the system.

SavageUrge · **Posted:** Thu May 17, 2007 1:47 pm

Actually the major oil companies are shutting down refineries to "save money". Instead of fixing them up (like the ones near New Orleans, Mississippi and others affected by Katrina) and putting them back into service, they're just abandoning them to eliminate operating costs hence the record profits of recent years.

Quote:

Ethanol's Corrosive Little Secret
Science – Is the use of ethanol as an alternative fuel a corrosive pipe dream? It could be thanks to ethanol's widely unknown dirty little secret. The infrastructure for transporting oil or fuel is through the use of metal pipelines, tanker truck or railway tanker. But there's just one slight problem. High concentrations of ethanol are corrosive to the met

Don't the pundits say the same thing about acetone?

jcphoto20 · **Joined:** Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:36 am **Posts:** 507

tjkj2002, you wouldnt approve of what i do either.

if you grow for ethanol, im sure you support my industry more than i support yours, by a long ways. if you were to grow for food, then it would be the other way around.

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