Liberty Gaining Respect!

Se7enLC · **Posted:** Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:22 pm

Looks like the new Grand Cherokee (WK) owners are looking for lifts and finding that the best way is to use a Liberty lift. Imitation is the best form of flattery.

http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/showthread.php?t=665381&highlight=WK+Lift

course there is always the obligatory "down with liberties" flame, but who has the last laugh now, liberties can be lifted and WKs have to be accused of lowering their rides.

Side note:

Rubicon Trail not recommended for Liberties, Cherokees, Grand Cherokees, and Children under 3

Joe Jeep Owner · **Posted:** Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:29 pm

Shouldnt we all get along, when it comes down to it we are all Jeeps!

priell3 · **Posted:** Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:32 pm

Last weekend at the Jeff Daniels Jeep Show I met the writer and photographer of Low-Range Magazine and he told me he wrote an article on the KJ for November's issue.

He said he drove a rented, stock KJ at Paragon on trails that Wranglers feared to tread. He had a lot of praise for the KJ and said he had no problems other than hitting the bottom (no skids either).

Low-Range Mag's target audience is the Northeast, so if any of you out there subscribe or know where to get a hold of an issue, be sure to check it out.

Ricky5 · **Posted:** Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:11 pm

I'm not sure if I find that too funny. I look at the Cherokee as being a more capable rig then the Wrangler ....... I can't say for the Liberty, because I haven't had it off road. Maybe I'll head to Left Hand this weekend .....

Doesn't Jeep test their models on the Rubicon trail? Isn't that where they get the "Trail Rated" badging??

Se7enLC · **Posted:** Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:51 pm

Ricky5 wrote:

Doesn't Jeep test their models on the Rubicon trail? Isn't that where they get the "Trail Rated" badging??

Yup. They technically made it, but they apparently don't recommend that their customers try it. I think with skid plates and tow hooks you can try pretty much anything anywhere, though. If you are a patient and cautious driver, the worst case is you get stuck. Without the skids, you'd damage an awful lot of stuff out there (but so would a wrangler, cherokee, etc, without skids)

camper · **Posted:** Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:01 pm

if I'm not mistaken, the trail rated badge does not mean the vehicle has run the rubicon trail...its a standardized evaluation on a set of particular obstacles like water fording, climbing, etc.....see jeep.com for a more complete explanation...

Guyute1210 · **Posted:** Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:07 pm

camper wrote:

if I'm not mistaken, the trail rated badge does not mean the vehicle has run the rubicon trail...its a standardized evaluation on a set of particular obstacles like water fording, climbing, etc.....see jeep.com for a more complete explanation...

They test there Jeeps at the Nevada Automotive Test Center. That's where they are tested/rated. www.NATC-HT.org

Tokyojoe · **Posted:** Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:38 pm

Ricky5 wrote:

I'm not sure if I find that too funny. I look at the Cherokee as being a more capable rig then the Wrangler ....... I can't say for the Liberty, because I haven't had it off road. Maybe I'll head to Left Hand this weekend .....

Doesn't Jeep test their models on the Rubicon trail? Isn't that where they get the "Trail Rated" badging??

Ricky5....come join us (LOST Rockies) on Saturday. We will do a Moderate and a Hard trail. Visit LOST Rockies section for more details.

carroll952 · **Posted:** Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:00 pm

Guyute1210 wrote:

camper wrote:

if I'm not mistaken, the trail rated badge does not mean the vehicle has run the rubicon trail...its a standardized evaluation on a set of particular obstacles like water fording, climbing, etc.....see jeep.com for a more complete explanation...

They test there Jeeps at the Nevada Automotive Test Center. That's where they are tested/rated. www.NATC-HT.org

It all doesn't stop the salesmen from telling you it was tested on the rubicon. That's what mine did at least, not that I really believe salesmen anyhow.

Justin

Edvalencia · **Posted:** Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:01 pm

carroll952 wrote:

Guyute1210 wrote:

camper wrote:

if I'm not mistaken, the trail rated badge does not mean the vehicle has run the rubicon trail...its a standardized evaluation on a set of particular obstacles like water fording, climbing, etc.....see jeep.com for a more complete explanation...

They test there Jeeps at the Nevada Automotive Test Center. That's where they are tested/rated. www.NATC-HT.org

It all doesn't stop the salesmen from telling you it was tested on the rubicon. That's what mine did at least, not that I really believe salesmen anyhow.

Justin

I believe the KJ was the last jeep to be tested on the Rubicon. All new Jeep models simply go through the little obstacle course to become trail rated.

Ed

BCool · **Posted:** Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:04 pm

The real question here is, can/has a liberty done the rubicon? Any my next question is, when are we going to do the rubicon?

krazz1e · **Posted:** Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:45 pm

it used to be can't label it a jeep if it don't pass the rubicon trail first, 2002 KJ went through it (though bypassed many obstacles of course) now the trail rated is pretty much marketing.

Looks like we need to get a rubicon run together and prove that article wrong. Not recommended? Ha, that's what people try to tell me in Moab too. :lol:

Skyjump136 · **Joined:** Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:50 pm **Posts:** 1633

The Rubicon test and the Trail Rated badge are unrelated. However, Jeep has still taken every vehicle over the Rubicon. I saw pictures of the Commander and it was practically demolished. :shock:

Tokyojoe · **Posted:** Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:25 pm

My subordinate told me he and a buddy of his took a Lifted Lexus through Rubicon. I am sure they bypassed most of the hard stuff. There is no way a basically stock Lexus is going through Rubicon and do the hard stuff.

skrracing · **Posted:** Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:27 pm

Man if you think one taking a KJ out and talking about it...Just wait...You are in for a HUGE surprise... More to come VERY SOON.
Later...Clint

YJBeef · **Posted:** Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:01 pm

Joe Jeep Owner wrote:

Shouldnt we all get along, when it comes down to it we are all Jeeps!

true!!

Quote:

I'm not sure if I find that too funny. I look at the Cherokee as being a more capable rig then the Wrangler .......

please...... :roll:

Ricky5 · **Posted:** Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:07 pm

Please?

Steakgoddess · **Posted:** Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:26 pm

skrracing wrote:

Man if you think one taking a KJ out and talking about it...Just wait...You are in for a HUGE surprise... More to come VERY SOON.
Later...Clint

Such a tease...such a TEASE!

LibertyN8 · **Posted:** Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:32 pm

skrracing wrote:

Man if you think one taking a KJ out and talking about it...Just wait...You are in for a HUGE surprise... More to come VERY SOON.
Later...Clint

Here he goes again... i already saw clint & wally go up "tip over challenge" in moab what can top that?

Edwin · **Posted:** Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:43 pm

Skyjump136 wrote:

The Rubicon test and the Trail Rated badge are unrelated. However, Jeep has still taken every vehicle over the Rubicon. I saw pictures of the Commander and it was practically demolished. :shock:

I'd like to see a picture of that.

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