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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:27 am 
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Last year in the end of July I purchased my Patriot Blue Sport 4x4 3.7 L and a automatic. After many weeks of pondering this situation. How can you indentify a '02 Lowered for saftey issues and one that has never been touched. I'm an OLD Time Shade Tree Mechanic, I even have the original shop Manual for my KJ (got this with the Jeep at the stealership) I new they were raping me but I got a lot of goodies out of MEDVED JEEP in Colorado. If someone would let me know how to tell I would feel a whole lot better. Not to mention get me in the proper direction for mods.
Please advise!!! I am planing to in the distant future replacing my suspencion with a Airbagit full Air Ride suspension system.. I admit it is pricy but since it will not only help off road but add so much more road maners on the street. I agree it ain't cheap but having the ability to squat down on the highway or even back roads to corner and perform like a sports car. Come to the end of the road hit the lift button and get what ever lift you require for this run and change it to each driving situation. How COOL could that be :idea:


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Hi Rush345,

The pre-lowered KJ has rear drumbrakes.

I owned a 2002 pre lowered KJ and I now own a 2003 KJ, the first year I kept banging my head getting in my 2003 KJ as it is that much lower and I keep banging the front skid on the slightest bump.

So you have crap rear brakes but good ground clearance :wink:

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IIRC, The build month will be pre-April 2002 for a pre-lowered. Those built after April of 2002 were lowered.

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But he also has the 45rfe tranny. I would give up rear disc brakes for that tranny.

You can tell just by looking at the Jeep. Park next to a jeep that you know is 03+ and look at them. Its easy to tell if you have the pre-lowered.

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The cut off was April. If your Liberty was built in 2001 or pre April 2002, it's got the longer springs and original tuning on the powersteering pump.

At least the drum brakes have a parking brake that works. :D

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At least the drum brakes have a parking brake that works. :D


No, not really. I have a 5-spd.

The parking brake on my '02 pre sucks hairy goat junk. I've had the cable replaced, tightened, brakes done, whatever over the course of 3 years and just stopped relying on it.

I turn the wheel to full lock when I park on a hill so the jeep will roll into the curb god forbid is starts moving. Had it in the driveway (which is a moderate hill), in 1st gear, with the P-brake on and it started moving. Thank god the wheel was turned just enough to guide it into my front yard instead of down the whole driveway. Since then, I ALWAYS keep the steering locked to one side.

I've experienced slippage while parked too many times to ever trust the e-brake again. I even carry a set of chalks (sp?) around just in case.

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Wierd... I've never had a problem with my parking brake. Oh well

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Wierd... I've never had a problem with my parking brake. Oh well


Same here mine works fine.

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I'll roll a good couple of inches with my brake pulled all the way. If you find a 2002, they could have swapped out the springs/shocks/struts by now just from wear and tear.....

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That's the only part of my brakes that really works,my parking brake :lol: ,can't beat drums for the best parking brakes.Oh and you could get rear disc's and the 45RFE(early '03 models,rare but have seen them).The offical cutoff date for "lowered" and "prelowered" is April 12th 2002.


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Last year in the end of July I purchased my Patriot Blue Sport 4x4 3.7 L and a automatic. After many weeks of pondering this situation. How can you indentify a '02 Lowered for saftey issues and one that has never been touched. I'm an OLD Time Shade Tree Mechanic, I even have the original shop Manual for my KJ (got this with the Jeep at the stealership) I new they were raping me but I got a lot of goodies out of MEDVED JEEP in Colorado. If someone would let me know how to tell I would feel a whole lot better. Not to mention get me in the proper direction for mods.
Please advise!!! I am planing to in the distant future replacing my suspencion with a Airbagit full Air Ride suspension system.. I admit it is pricy but since it will not only help off road but add so much more road maners on the street. I agree it ain't cheap but having the ability to squat down on the highway or even back roads to corner and perform like a sports car. Come to the end of the road hit the lift button and get what ever lift you require for this run and change it to each driving situation. How COOL could that be :idea:


I show Delivery of 03/11/03. I know the vin will tell me when it was built I have a copy of the build sheet:
VIN: 1J4GL48K6-2W154287
Desc: 2002 ? JEEP LIBERTY SPORT 4X4 SPORT UTILITY 4-DR

*M5 - Cloth High-Back Bucket Seats
-DV - Dark Slate Gray
AHMP - Convenience Group I
AJPP - Power Convenience Group
APAS - Monotone Paint
A33P - 3.7L Eng(EKG)/4Spd A/T 45RFE(DG4)
BAZP - 136 Amp Alternator
BCPS - 525 Amp Maintenance Free Battery
BRBS - Power Front Disc/Rear Drum Brakes
CDBS - Reclining Front Seats
CF5S - Rear 65/35 Folding Split Seat
CGGS - Traveling Inboard Seat Belt Buckle
CGUS - Child Seat Anchor System-LATCH Ready
CGXS - RR Head Restraints Outboard Seating
CG1S - Next Gen Multistage Front Air Bags**
CG6S - Center Rear 3-Point Seat Belt
CKBS - Floor Carpet
CKNS - Cargo Compartment Carpet
CKTS - Cargo Tie Down Loops
CLEP - Front & Rear Floor Mats
CLJP - Swing Gate Trim Panel w/Storage Net
CLNS - Covered Exterior Sill
CLPS - Door Sill Scuff Pads
CSRS - Passenger Assist Handles
CSWS - Driver Assist Handle
CTLS - Base Door Trim Panel
CUFS - Full Length Floor Console
CUKS - Removable Ash Tray
DGBS - All 4-Speed Automatic Transmissions
DG4 - Multi-Speed Auto 45RFE Transmission
DHAP - Lock-Up Torque Converter
DHNS - Command-Trac Part Time 4WD System
DJJS - Dana 30/186MM Front Axle
DMEP - 3.73 Axle Ratio
DRAP - Corporate 8.25 Rear Axle
DSA - Anti-Spin Differential Rear Axle
EKG - 3.7L V6 Engine
GBBS - Tinted Windshield Glass
GCBS - Front Door Tinted Glass
GEG - Deep Tint Sunscreen Glass
GEKS - Flipper Swing Gate Glass
GFAS - Rear Window Defroster
GNAS - Rear View Day/Night Mirror
GNCP - Sun Visors w/Illum Vanity Mirrors
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GVBC - All Vehicles W/Power Mirrors
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HAAP - Air Conditioning
I24S - Route 24 - UP, Rolla, CO
JAYS - Instrument Cluster w/Tach
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JHAS - Var Intermittent Windshield Wipers
JHBS - Rear Window Wiper/Washer
JJAS - Cigar Lighter
JJBS - Dual Note Electric Horns
JJJS - 12V Auxiliary Power Outlet
JJMP - Auxiliary 12-Volt Rear Power Outlet
JKHS - Glove Box
JPDP - Power Windows, Driver One-Touch
JPHP - Speed Sensitive Power Locks
K1AS - No description found
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LNJ - Fog Lamps
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MDAP - Front License Plate Bracket
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MHAS - Black Windshield Moldings
MLCS - Gray Fascias
MMGS - Belt Moldings
MNAS - Black Door Handles
MVCS - Jeep Badge
MVDS - 4X4 Badge
MVJS - Sport Badge
MWGP - Roof Rack
MZLP - 3.7L Badge
MZ3S - Liberty Badge
NAS - 50 State Emissions
NBHP - High Altitude Emissions Tracking
NBKS - EVAP Control System
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QB7S - Patriot Blue Pearl Coat
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TBBP - Full Size Spare Tire
TBRS - Outside Tire Carrier
TMXS - P215/75R16 BSW All Season Tires
TZAP - Goodyear Brand Tires
WKBS - Matching Spare Wheel
WLZC - All Aluminum Wheels
WND - 16X7.0 Cast Aluminum Wheels
XEUS - Front Suspension Skid Plate
XGGS - Grocery Bag Hooks
XPFS - Protective Coating and Remover
YAAS - Build To U S Market Specifications
YEP - Manuf Statement of Origin
YGEA - 5 Additional Gallons of Gas
ZCHP - Spring - Left Front
ZCUP - Spring - Left Rear
ZRGP - Spring - Right Front
ZRUP - Spring - Right Rear
Z5BP - Payload Rating - 1800#
0ABA - No description found
0ACA - No description found
0ADA - No description found
1AAS - U.S. Dealer Retail
174S - Zone 74-Denver
2TBA - Customer Preferred Package 2TB
27B - Customer Preferred Package 27B
3VDA - Customer Preferred Discount
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5I8S - Left Hand Drive (LHD)
5YAS - KJ-Vehicle Family
594S - Vehicle Order Tracking
6USS - Label - U.S. Specifications
606S - Colorado State Code
906S - Colorado State Code

What numbers do I need to be looking at to figure out it's Born ON DATE????


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Open the drivers door,on the edge off the door is a white tag,it has the tire info and such,it will have the manufactured date under the VIN,just the month and year(mine is 02/02-feb of '02).Since the delievery date is in '03 I highly doubt it sat at the factory for over a year,I'd say it is a lowered KJ.


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tjkj2002 wrote:
Open the drivers door,on the edge off the door is a white tag,it has the tire info and such,it will have the manufactured date under the VIN,just the month and year(mine is 02/02-feb of '02).Since the delievery date is in '03 I highly doubt it sat at the factory for over a year,I'd say it is a lowered KJ.


Thanks RL I appreciate it.


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I've got rear drums and mine was manuf'ed in May of '02. Does the theory hold?


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Cool!

Your truck is unique. Or the plant was just using up some inventory remaining???


My truck was a January 02 build I think - I'll have to check again

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I've heard the Pre-Lowered 02's have the 4X4 badge behind the last rear window on both sides of the KJ. Mine's Pre-Lowered and has this, so I'm guessing there's some truth to this.

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That was the original placement for the 4x4 indication.

I always thought that it was a cost savings move to cut the badge down to 1 and move it to the tail gate.

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I think all 2002 models have drum brakes - throughout the model year.

The pre-lowered version stopped being made in April 2002 and the most accurate indicator is the "4x4" badge location. Pre-lowered models have the "4x4" under the rear most side window. Models made after April 2002 with the "lower" suspension have the "4x4" badge on the tailgate.

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Mine has it in both the tailgate and by the rear side glass...it's a late build '02 (mid or late march IIRC)


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