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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:45 am 
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This new tech that I found from another dealer ( my deater was sold and they do not have a diesel tech) told me that DCX will not replace a leaky turbo.
I said that is stupid, he said ; That's the new rules.


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IndyCRD - I am now monitoring the same area we are both describing for oil leakage. Mine was a very slow leak that never made it down to the ground, it just left small sludgy spots in the rear main seal area right around the oil filter. It'll probably take me a few weeks, or more, to get a full picture of whether or not the problem is solved.

My question for you is - with a leaky return line, should the whole turbo have been replaced or should the line have been replaced and the turbo cleaned. Do you think they replaced that return line when they replaced the turbo?

The CRD seems to be running fine now, but I am also wondering if we are going to keep seeing this problem over and over as the turbos get filled up with soot.

nescosmo - your new tech is lieing or doesn't know what he is doing. While under any covered MOPAR or bumper-to-bumper warranty, Chrysler will replace or repair ANY part of the car - at the dealers discretion and diagnosis. Go to another dealership or get the district rep involved if there is an oil leak. I was steering the dealer in the direction of the rear main seal - they figured out the leak was from the turbo and THEY decided that since they were not sure where the turbo was leaking from, they'd just replace the whole unit to remove all doubt. And they are definitely being paid by Chrysler under warranty for it. The parts and labor were almost $1200.

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I'm not really sure how the return line attaches to the turbo, so I don't know if the whole turbo needs replacing. It appears to be leaking up close to the turbo on mine, but it's so hard to see up under there to tell for sure.

In my case, there is so much oil in the intake hose that it has to be the turbo leaking it. I've had the CCV running open almost since the beginning...so oil isn't coming from there. I'd say that if you got your whole turbo replaced, that is certainly nothing to worry about. I'd say that having them put in new parts is a good thing.

I would agree that one can get varying answers from different dealers...or even at the same dealer. VW was the same way when I used to deal with them. I had a carbon buildup-related problem in my TDI that was taken care of through the warranty. One of my friends had the exact same issue and was forced to pay for the repair...at the same dealership. I think that when the dealers talk to the corporate office, the answer they get depends on what mood the corporate rep is in....or if the planets are in alignment that day.

I'm going to try and get my jeep in this-coming week and will keep you posted on how things turn out.

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Very cool Indy, thanks. It will be very interesting to see if they give you the same, or similar, fix as mine. I will keep an eye out for your posts on this thread regarding your progress.

Also - I wanted to mention - the dealership told me that this type of problem, an oil leak, is also covered under the 7/70 powertrane (if you have that) even if you are beyond your 3/36K bumper-to-bumper.

But Indy - hurry up and go now - you have to cough up a $100 deductible on your powertrane!!! :shock:

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Well, I have a bit of an update. Although I haven't spoken with the service guy directly, he did call me yesterday and left a message. Apparently there is a hose that is bad. I am assuming that he meant the oil return line coming off the turbo. That is where I saw oil leaking. I called back, but he wasn't available at the time to talk. Sounds like there will be no turbo replacement.

I'll give a final report when I go to pick the jeep up in a few days. At the moment, I'm driving my old Ford Ranger beater pickup. The radio doesn't even work in this truck! The thing rides like a log wagon and I can't wait to switch back!

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Indy you are making me wonder if I need to have the dealer replace my oil return line too, since I don't see it listed on the paperwork where the warranty repair was done.

Also - my turbo whistles A LOT louder now than before. I guess because, for the time being, it isn't caked in soot :roll:

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o.k....update of my update. Just talked to the service guy. The jeep is done and ready to pick up. I asked what hose it was that they replaced. He called it the "charge hose" to the turbo. Anyone want to elaborate on which one they are referring to? I guess I'll know when I open the hood and look.

richardkdf - I'd just keep an eye on it to make sure your leak is stopped. Like you said, the more pronouced sound could just be from the turbo being new without crud in it.

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IndyCRD wrote:
o.k....update of my update. Just talked to the service guy. The jeep is done and ready to pick up. I asked what hose it was that they replaced. He called it the "charge hose" to the turbo. Anyone want to elaborate on which one they are referring to? I guess I'll know when I open the hood and look.

richardkdf - I'd just keep an eye on it to make sure your leak is stopped. Like you said, the more pronouced sound could just be from the turbo being new without crud in it.


Yea, this weekend we are going to spray a little degreaser around the original area where we first noticed some accumulation and anywhere else along the path to that area that we can access. I'll keep you posted.

I'd like to know what a charge hose is and where it connects to on the turbo, when you get your ride back, so i can poke around mine and see what is going on in mine.

Funny you mention your beat up old pick up has no radio. I am also having that intermittent static problem(that many Chrysler owners are experiencing) with the Sirius in my CRD. I finally found the TSB for the fix to it. The dealer replaced the tuner and the antenna, but it turns out there's more to it than that.

"Engineered to be great cars," huh? :roll:

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Indy you are making me wonder if I need to have the dealer replace my oil return line too, since I don't see it listed on the paperwork where the warranty repair was done.

Also - my turbo whistles A LOT louder now than before. I guess because, for the time being, it isn't caked in soot :roll:


Chances are great that one of your boost connections is loose!
Check and check again.

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bentrod wrote:
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Indy you are making me wonder if I need to have the dealer replace my oil return line too, since I don't see it listed on the paperwork where the warranty repair was done.

Also - my turbo whistles A LOT louder now than before. I guess because, for the time being, it isn't caked in soot :roll:


Chances are great that one of your boost connections is loose!
Check and check again.


Thanks bentrod, when I go in for my next Sirius fix, I will have them inspect all of the connections on the turbo.

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Yes I too have/had the rear seal leak for a bit, dripping about a quarter size drop.
The engine was checked all over: not from turbo, turbo oil drain, oil pan, valve cover, or intake hoses.

I would have liked to replaced the seal, but, as someone here coined the phrase, it was on "galactic back order!"

So what was the majority of the leak was the seal outer housing. ( I hope someone could post a pic of the seal, sorry I don't have one)
The shop, Auto Wurks Diesel that did my Sun Coast job, externally cleaned it where the outer seal housing meets the rest of the engine/block and applied "gray International sealer" Told this sutff is from Ford/International and used on the 7.3/6.0's.

Now only one lower bell housing bolt has a slight film of oil on it, and its not dripping on the ground!
Major improvement!

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bentrod wrote:
Yes I too have/had the rear seal leak for a bit, dripping about a quarter size drop.
The engine was checked all over: not from turbo, turbo oil drain, oil pan, valve cover, or intake hoses.

I would have liked to replaced the seal, but, as someone here coined the phrase, it was on "galactic back order!"

So what was the majority of the leak was the seal outer housing. ( I hope someone could post a pic of the seal, sorry I don't have one)
The shop, Auto Wurks Diesel that did my Sun Coast job, externally cleaned it where the outer seal housing meets the rest of the engine/block and applied "gray International sealer" Told this sutff is from Ford/International and used on the 7.3/6.0's.

Now only one lower bell housing bolt has a slight film of oil on it, and its not dripping on the ground!
Major improvement!


The dealer said they inspected it and found that the oil was dripping down from the turbo charger to that area. On my CRD, the oil never actually dripped down to the ground, it just formed a lot of grime all around the general area of the rear main seal and the oil filter.

I am going to keep an eye on it for sure, but I am not too stressed about it because it is covered under the 7/70 powertrane, if the problem lingers on after the 3/36 lapses.

What is stressful is that this is the first car I've owned where you don't get a loaner when it is laid up for service, recalls or warranty repairs ... and between those three situations, it is laid up A LOT.

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