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Sir Sam · **Posted:** Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:14 am

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Joe Romas · **Posted:** Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:07 am

Sam

That one looks like a real challange

Just about every panel is bent :cry:

litton · **Posted:** Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:02 am

Still, it's pretty impressive that the passenger compartment held up so well. Gives me a good feeling about the construction.

Cowcatcher · **Posted:** Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:13 am

Sam,

Do you check out Texas a lot or are they just baaaaddddd drivers down there? :lol:

MightyCRD · **Posted:** Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:35 am

Cowcatcher wrote:

Sam,

Do you check out Texas a lot or are they just baaaaddddd drivers down there? :lol:

Watch it Cowcatcher - I resemble that remark! LOL

Sir Sam · **Posted:** Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:32 am

Cowcatcher wrote:

Sam,

Do you check out Texas a lot or are they just baaaaddddd drivers down there? :lol:

Its just happns to be where they are showing up right now.

No GC crds yet though

ATXKJ · **Posted:** Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:48 am

Cowcatcher wrote:

Sam,

Do you check out Texas a lot or are they just baaaaddddd drivers down there? :lol:

I'd vote for the 'baaaaddddd drivers'

try to slow down to the speed limit and they'll run over you.

Milner · **Posted:** Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:34 pm

I have driven in Texas....I take out the extra rental insurance every! :shock:

Fulltimer · **Posted:** Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:51 pm

I think it would make a nice KJ pickup! Take that roof off, weld the back doors shut and have fun!

Terry

Cowcatcher · **Posted:** Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:13 pm

Ok guys I was just kidding. I had to go to a couple of meetings in Austin this May and drove about 40 miles a day there on the freeways for a week going from the airport to north past the downtown area and back and I didn't see such bad driving. I also didn't see and drive in liquor stores like I recall from my youth in New Mexico. :roll:

danoid · **Posted:** Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:02 pm

I just wish I could buy it for spare parts. With fuel economy standards likely to go into the 40 mpg range, anything that can pull a trailer will become illegal. In 12 years, these cars will be worth more in parts than as whole...

Sir Sam · **Posted:** Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:13 pm

danoid wrote:

I just wish I could buy it for spare parts. With fuel economy standards likely to go into the 40 mpg range, anything that can pull a trailer will become illegal. In 12 years, these cars will be worth more in parts than as whole...

Im wanting it for the drivetrain to swap into my XJ.

Threeweight · **Joined:** Mon May 14, 2007 5:57 pm **Posts:** 679

danoid wrote:

I just wish I could buy it for spare parts. With fuel economy standards likely to go into the 40 mpg range, anything that can pull a trailer will become illegal. In 12 years, these cars will be worth more in parts than as whole...

Not how fuel economy standards work. It is a fleet-wide average (ie, high mpg models balance out low mpg models), with seperate standards for passenger cars and for light trucks. Currently 27.5ish for cars, 20.5ish for trucks (from an article I read a few weeks ago). Our current Liberty CRD's probably beat the current passenger car mpg requirements and far exceed the truck requirements. The new VW Taureg diesel is claimed to be rated to tow 7500 pounds and still get 28 mpg highway.

If our CRD didn't have the aerodynamics of a shoebox, it would like run 30-32 mpg highway.

I believe higher mpg standards will mean greater use of small diesels in pickups (which is why Cummins, Isuzu, VW, etc... are all investing in them, and why Toyota, GM, etc... are buying shares in companies with small diesels that are likely to meet US emissions specs). I bought my CRD because I wanted a tow vehicle that got decent MPG. It is friggin ridiculous that average mpg of the US vehicle fleet is lower now than it was in the 1980's.

I know this won't be a popular opinion, but the US auto industry is its own worst enemy on fuel economy. Every time there is a fuel price shock, US makers loose market share because they refused to invest in the tech needed to be ahead of the curve. For all the PR Ford has gotten over the Escape hybrid, the electric drivetrain is license from Toyota, and thats not a domestic diesel powering the Grand Cherokee CRD's.

MrWinkey · **Joined:** Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:16 pm **Posts:** 37

I wonder if the TCM had the F37 done......

hmmmmmm!

chrispitude · **Posted:** Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:55 pm

MrWinkey wrote:

I wonder if the TCM had the F37 done......

hmmmmmm!

:slap: Git away from that!

- Chris

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