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 Post subject: let me know if those work
PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:15 am 
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ed. wrote:
Hey Banknote, can you post the link to your images?
The one you posted is incorrect.

Thanks mate.


The pics are in my previous post- edited


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So you put a cooler over the other coolers?? Hard to tell what was blocked by the new cooler. Quite a few coolers already up front. Past the point of diminishing returns imho.

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Agreed - might not be so evident just tooling around, but try towing in the summertime, a\c burning, with extra blockage up there - big driving lites, extra 'coolers, brush-gards, etc.

Diesel's make little BTU when unloaded, but will make more than double the BTU of an identical-displacement gasser (patooie!) when loaded, due to the turbo and the fuel and the injection process - requires a lot of heat-exchanging to dissipate that increased heat

IMO, a fan-over cooler down-under will be less hassle

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Banknote, was there room to mount it vertically? That would cover less of the fan. I think this is an excellent idea however and I for one need something done. Looking to see the different options that this thread will reveal. There has to be a cooler out there somewhere that will fit our needs.

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Banknote, was there room to mount it vertically? That would cover less of the fan. I think this is an excellent idea however and I for one need something done. Looking to see the different options that this thread will reveal. There has to be a cooler out there somewhere that will fit our needs.


I ordered a DeRale cooler and I am going to make it fit somewhere where it won't hang up when wheeling... even if I have to use a big hammer and a sawzall...

I thought about the frame rail coolers but the airflow is an issue underneath those skids and with the skids on it is darned hot under there. Using the infared temp on the frame rails by the tranny showed a good 145 degrees on a 110 degree day. Figure in that they are small coolers to begin with and you can't expect them to do as much as something mounted in the front.

I am thinking about just giving up on avoiding cooler stacking and just put the cooler in a similar location as Banknote. I hope to make up for the cooler stacking by installing hood louvers before next summer. Also, I intend to keep the airflow infront of the Jeep clean-- no lights or bullbar or permanent winch sticking up. I figure if you vent the heat out the top with the louvers it should create a nice pull, moving more air across the cooler stack, thus keeping everything cooler. Especially at low speeds. It is just cutting the holes in the hood really is a point of no return. It looks like the louvers would look good installed in the hood about level with the turbo housing. That would take alot of heat out of the engine compartment and force a good draft on the right side.

I might insert the return line from the turbo innercooler in heat reflecting tubing and ditto for the tranny cooler return. I talked to Lopers performance in Mesa and they have tubes made of heat reflective material. No since letting any of those tubes suck up heat after you worked so hard to cool down the fluid running through them.

I am thinking about using one of the frame rail coolers for the fuel return. I hope to get my Super Sliders installed this week and I maybe able to use the mounting bars of the supersliders to protect the frame rail cooler but still allow flow over it. We will see.


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If memory serves, this model wouldn't fit vertically. I think there are smaller sized B&M's, and you can measure the hard plastic subframe to check. I talked to someone at B&M and he said there are 2 position options: nipples up, or input on top if mounted vertically.

There is about an inch or two between the stock coolers and the B&M. All in all, I don't think it blocked so much air volume that the effeciency of all coolers is reduced enough to not do it. Good info about BTU's.

Louvers would be a great thread- go for it!

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Pablo wrote;
"I ordered a DeRale cooler and I am going to make it fit somewhere where it won't hang up when wheeling... even if I have to use a big hammer and a sawzall... "

What did you decide, Pablo?

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