We disagree.

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Skeptic quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur

Me too

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I agree that initial union activities did promote better working conditions, pay, etc and were right at the time. Not convinced of that today.

I am convinced that the largest problem for workers today is that the present tax structure and government regulation has made a situation that business is going "off shore" and the union will never be able to cure that.

It has been confirmed by more than just the political candidates that the U.S, has the 2nd highest corporate tax rate in the world (second only to Japan) and I know, living in Iowa, that Iowa has the highest corporate tax rate in the U.S. (yes... even higher than CA or NY). Is it any wonder that good "union" jobs like Maytag and Titan Tire have bailed and moved out of Iowa.

I believe that is a larger problem. The unions would be able to survive better if this situation was changed. Right now, the union is the "last straw" for large business and then they move out. If a corporation had only the union to contend with, we might not have this discussion.

Even though I may not be "pro" union, I am more anti big Government. I really don't have a real dog in the union hunt. I do have real animosity towards political meddling that is screwing up the whole thing for us all.

Time for a "Fair Tax" and putting Government on a fiscal and regulatory diet. I know.... long shot at best. Keep hope alive.

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Hmm.... is that true? Then why are they trying to do away with the secret ballot in union voting? By knowing who voted against their desires and thereby rely on intimidation of workers they are really promoting "democratic" ideals. Sounds more like Marxism than democracy. Oh well, we live in an age where truth is relative.

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Environmentalist Green + Socialist Red = Facist Brown

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Disagreements are fine, I cannot understand how you can argue against well documented historical facts as well as the U.S. Constitution.



Who is this "they" you describe? I will not defend anyone who tries to strip away the rights of workers or use negative tactics to achieve an end against workplace democracy. Please name names or unions who are doing this.

In 1988, Carlos Salinas de Gortari was elected President of Mexico and was integral in writing up NAFTA, CAFTA, and GATT with U.S. President GHW Bush (which Clinton later implemented). Gortari, upon election, almost immediately eliminated workers' rights in Mexico thereby dissolving most of the auto industry unions (for example). This alone, in and of itself, was the first step in creating the current day oligarchy in Mexico which has led Carlos Slim Helu to now become the richest man in the world.