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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:29 pm 
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Just got back from Scuderia Jeep @ Chatswood.
They did the calibration to the max tyre size they could.
Still out but not as much now, only a few km/hr or it could be my GPS is crap.
Might chuck it on my mates dyno when I have time.

Not going back to Lincorp for anything ever again.


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Just got back from Scuderia Jeep @ Chatswood.
They did the calibration to the max tyre size they could.
Still out but not as much now, only a few km/hr or it could be my GPS is crap.
Might chuck it on my mates dyno when I have time.

Not going back to Lincorp for anything ever again.



I'm not surprised. :?

I heard it was impossible for about a year, until I found a bloke that said "YEAH, takes five minutes".

Imagine what that place would do when repairing a vehicle :roll:

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cmohr wrote:
I'm not surprised. :?

I heard it was impossible for about a year, until I found a bloke that said "YEAH, takes five minutes".

Imagine what that place would do when repairing a vehicle :roll:


Not wrong when people call them "stealerships"

Thanks to cmohr for giving us insight in to this calibration thing.


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You probably won't notice much of a difference driving (in the CRD) but, you may notice it holds gears a little better around the "change" time, as engine revs match wheel speed. But with all that "Boost" stuff from the turbo, we'll probably never know. :D

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I find it strange (and unlikely -my opinion only ) that it would be used to sense actual speed.


I believe the ABS wheel sensors do measure the actual rotational speed of each wheel. My KJ not only has ABS but also ESC (Electronic Stability Control) which uses a combination of inputs (wheel speed, lateral acceleration, yaw and steering wheel angle) to determine whether the car is actually going where I want it to, and apply the brake on one (or more) wheel(s) if it detects understeer, oversteer, or sideways slip. Clever stuff!

It works, too, as I found out on some dirt roads when towing the trailer. Statistics say that ESC reduces singe vehicle accidents for SUV's by about 44% (ordinary sedans by 30%), largely due (for SUV's) to the reduction in rollover accidents.

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I find it strange (and unlikely -my opinion only ) that it would be used to sense actual speed.


I believe the ABS wheel sensors do measure the actual rotational speed of each wheel. My KJ not only has ABS but also ESC (Electronic Stability Control) which uses a combination of inputs (wheel speed, lateral acceleration, yaw and steering wheel angle) to determine whether the car is actually going where I want it to, and apply the brake on one (or more) wheel(s) if it detects understeer, oversteer, or sideways slip. Clever stuff!

It works, too, as I found out on some dirt roads when towing the trailer. Statistics say that ESC reduces singe vehicle accidents for SUV's by about 44% (ordinary sedans by 30%), largely due (for SUV's) to the reduction in rollover accidents.



I don't doubt that the ABS sensors detect speed, thats there job, when I said "speed" I of course meant the speed actually displayed on your spedometer, what I doubted, and as Ed found that out, it was just an excuse to why they could not do what he asked. The primary "speed" sensor is in the diff (thats the information given to me by several sources), and that info is the one that all other sensor information is placed against, (ie in gearboxs, ABSs sensors and engine revs and the like), thats how it works as there has to be something to compare to for ABS and the like (ESP) to work. The ABS sensors look for mismatches in speed in each wheel to determine as to whether a wheel has locked up under braking, and if it detects this occurance it reacts, same as traction control, if it detects a wheel spinning more than others under power it transfers power away from that wheel to the others. ESP is a cross between ABS and Traction Control as it does both at the same time, it's very intuitive, as you have stated it takes not only speed into account, it looks at diangle, steering position, gear, and even 4wd - 2wd. :)

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Thought I'd add this to the discussion since it's related.

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I have 245/75/16s and the speedo (pinion setting) was changed (via the body control module) by the previous owner for $100 at the dealer. It is interesting to note that the odometer did not get corrected by this change and reads 9% under. I believe that this is because on models with ABS, the odometer reading comes from the tire rotations counted by the wheel sensors and the ABS system computer.
All KJ's from '02-'07 have a speedo sensor/tone ring one/in the rear diff where the speedo get's it reading from,not the ABS sensors.But it just so happens that the ABS uses that rear sensor on '02 KJ's with ABS since the rear only had drum brakes and doesn't have individual wheel sensors like the front wheels.

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