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I posted in the other thread, but it is a long thread now, so here is a new one to show all the parts I have received (minus some of the hardware). Everything was packaged extremely well, and the instructions have great pictures and pretty detailed. I'm going to be going through everything in the instructions when we do the install to see if anything needs to be editted for better clarity and understanding. It will be a few weeks before we can get this thing installed, but will keep you updated as we do, and then the fun trail testing it. :twisted:

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Interesting sitting here looking at what we use now and what that kits uses. Cant wait to see install pictures. Make sure you do some before and after measurements as well or does the one you are lifting already have a lift?
Thanks for sharing................

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It has a Rusty's kit right now so it will be interesting to see the difference between the two. It's easy to see a difference between stock and a lift, but between two lifts seeing a difference will make it real interesting. I will be taking plenty of measurements, notes, and a detailed install writeup for Jeep Junkie Magazine.


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I'll be taking a lot of pictures of the install and will post them.

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I'll be taking a lot of pictures of the install and will post them.
While I turn the wrenches :twisted: :lol: :lol: :lol: !


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Marty,

Where are the link extensions that they show on their website for the 4" Lift?

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Marty,

Where are the link extensions that they show on their website for the 4" Lift?

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From what I take of what they do it will increase the articulation in the rear end.

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Marty,

Where are the link extensions that they show on their website for the 4" Lift?

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If you look again they are in there unassembled. As Marty said, the picture does not include all of the hardware. The unassembled pieces are above the skyjacker shocks. It looks like the metal bracket that connects the two red pieces aren't in the picture.

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Tokyojoe wrote:
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Where are the link extensions that they show on their website for the 4" Lift?

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If you look again they are in there unassembled. As Marty said, the picture does not include all of the hardware. The unassembled pieces are above the skyjacker shocks. It looks like the metal bracket that connects the two red pieces aren't in the picture.
The unpainted part in the pic above you must remove from the rear diff.It is the bracket that bolts to the top of the rear diff and the tri-link ball joint connects to it.


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The unpainted part in the pic above you must remove from the rear diff.It is the bracket that bolts to the top of the rear diff and the tri-link ball joint connects to it.


Does this correct pinion angle so you don't NEED an SYE? or is this just to get the rear axle to sit centered in the rear fenderwells?


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should be for pinion angle, would rotate the axle back at the top some, ... to get the tires recentered in the wheel well you would need new longer lower control arms as well to stretch it out then of course you "may" need longer driveshafts

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will you be cutting the 3/8 off the CV joints like they mention on the jeepinbyal web site?

make sure to get a pic of that ... man ... 1100 for 2.5 or 2200 for 4 ...

if this proves to be a solid lift ... I just might have to pony up some $$

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will you be cutting the 3/8 off the CV joints like they mention on the jeepinbyal web site?

make sure to get a pic of that ... man ... 1100 for 2.5 or 2200 for 4 ...

if this proves to be a solid lift ... I just might have to pony up some $$


Yes. Marlin recommends using a lathe, but not everyone has access to one, so I will be using a bandsaw.

The price may seem high, but looking at the parts, I can personally understand a big part of it. The shocks and rear coils are Skyjacker, which the name only raises the price and I'm sure Marlin has to make a margin of profit as these probably weren't cheap for him. The coil/clevis plate has some machine time involved to make those which are probably custom just for the KJ application. The front strut coils are Eibachs, which I'm not too familiar with but have heard the name a lot in custom applications which appears to be a quality brand, so I'm sure those aren't cheap. Custom steel braided brakelines, those aren't cheap, especially for DOT approved lines (these have the DOT cert label on them). This kit is put together from quality name brand parts and custom machined parts just for the KJ application. JeepinbyAl needs to make a profit on these kits to make them worth the time and investment put into them, so all these things considered, the price is about right where it should be. Installation doesn't look like it will be much different from a Frankenlift, except for installing brakelines and cutting the CV shafts which is where the labor time will add up.


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OH boy :lol: ! That's going to be messy,better have alot of towels and brake clean stocked up and we're going to need some CV grease also not to mention new CV bands and the special tool for those darn things :twisted: .

I thought cutting the CV's was only for the 6" lift,guess I was mistaken.


Oh and Eibach springs are about the best coil springs on the market,well worth the extra cost for them.


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OH boy :lol: ! That's going to be messy,better have alot of towels and brake clean stocked up and we're going to need some CV grease also not to mention new CV bands and the special tool for those darn things :twisted: .

I thought cutting the CV's was only for the 6" lift,guess I was mistaken.


Oh and Eibach springs are about the best coil springs on the market,well worth the extra cost for them.


You take it apart, I'll cut it. :twisted:

That's what I was thinking on the coils, but wasn't sure. They are a 450lb spring rate and stand 16" tall. I don't remember the spring rate and free standing height on the stock springs for comparison, but I bet Troy does.


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Was it this lift or the 6 inch one that was supposed come with the knuckle extension?

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spring rate of 450 :? well considering that OME Heavy Dutys are 400 Rustys are 310s thats pretty heavy. Everyone runs around now saying the Heavy Dutys ride too rough (NOT at least I dont think so :wink: ) so what will they think of 450?

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not really worried about the cost .. it seems in line with other lift kits for other vehicles.

how well do you think this is going to adapt to the CRD's?

and the cutting shoudn't be an issue .. my buddy works on a cnc .. he could probably find some minutes for me if I ask him really nice.

I guess I need to see your reviews of the lift after you have used it some.

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RockLizard company folks...can you take pics of when you are cutting the CVs? That would be mighty rad of you:)

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RockLizard company folks...can you take pics of when you are cutting the CVs? That would be mighty rad of you:)
There will be plenty of pics during install,between the KJ's owner and Marty there will be plenty of pics.


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