SC ROCKSTAR 05'-07'more pics added 12/14/07 website too.

Cowcatcher · **Posted:** Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:10 am

Let me see where I am at in January, I have some other pending expenses, but I am likely 85% or better. If I go for it I will plan a trip in the Spring since I need to burn vacation before June 1.

Guys, I am not lifted so I'm not doing Moab. It would be fun though. :wink:

JHCRASH · **Posted:** Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:16 am

When I get my shop going it will be in Salt Lake.I am doing this at my current place of employment right now.going on 14 years now.I am so tired of working for someone else.

Rush345 · **Posted:** Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:02 am

I have a 2002 Liberty Sport don't want the stinger but would like to use my factory Fog and Turn signals the use of factory light on the old Jeepin Al's discontinued bumper always attracked me for the factory look with a good bumper.
By the way being in Colorado A road trip would be fun.

JHCRASH · **Posted:** Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:22 am

Rush345 wrote:

I have a 2002 Liberty Sport don't want the stinger but would like to use my factory Fog and Turn signals the use of factory light on the old Jeepin Al's discontinued bumper always attracked me for the factory look with a good bumper.
By the way being in Colorado A road trip would be fun.

Ya I have the guinnie pig. I had not really thought of using the factory fogs for those years so I will have to make that an opption. I plan on using the factory turn signals that is mainly why i needed the guinnie pig.So keep watching so when i get it done for those years you can make the road trip instead of paying for shipping

Rush345 · **Posted:** Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:30 am

JHCRASH wrote:

Rush345 wrote:

I have a 2002 Liberty Sport don't want the stinger but would like to use my factory Fog and Turn signals the use of factory light on the old Jeepin Al's discontinued bumper always attracked me for the factory look with a good bumper.
By the way being in Colorado A road trip would be fun.

Ya I have the guinnie pig. I had not really thought of using the factory fogs for those years so I will have to make that an opption. I plan on using the factory turn signals that is mainly why i needed the guinnie pig.So keep watching so when i get it done for those years you can make the road trip instead of paying for shipping

Thanks I await with a worm on my tong (Baited Breath) :-)r

JHCRASH · **Posted:** Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:37 am

Rush345 wrote:

JHCRASH wrote:

Rush345 wrote:

I have a 2002 Liberty Sport don't want the stinger but would like to use my factory Fog and Turn signals the use of factory light on the old Jeepin Al's discontinued bumper always attracked me for the factory look with a good bumper.
By the way being in Colorado A road trip would be fun.

Ya I have the guinnie pig. I had not really thought of using the factory fogs for those years so I will have to make that an opption. I plan on using the factory turn signals that is mainly why i needed the guinnie pig.So keep watching so when i get it done for those years you can make the road trip instead of paying for shipping

Thanks I await with a worm on my tong (Baited Breath) :-)r

Im not 100% sure what you mean by this by this but it makes me laugh anyway.

Rush345 · **Posted:** Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:12 am

JHCRASH wrote:

Rush345 wrote:

JHCRASH wrote:

Rush345 wrote:

I have a 2002 Liberty Sport don't want the stinger but would like to use my factory Fog and Turn signals the use of factory light on the old Jeepin Al's discontinued bumper always attracked me for the factory look with a good bumper.
By the way being in Colorado A road trip would be fun.

Ya I have the guinnie pig. I had not really thought of using the factory fogs for those years so I will have to make that an opption. I plan on using the factory turn signals that is mainly why i needed the guinnie pig.So keep watching so when i get it done for those years you can make the road trip instead of paying for shipping

Thanks I await with a worm on my tong (Baited Breath) :-)r

Im not 100% sure what you mean by this by this but it makes me laugh anyway.

An old Robin William line from his Mork and Mindy Days yes I'm that old

the original line was I await with baited breath ( which I beleive may derive from Shakespear) but Robin Williams used the above line. :lol:

USAFCOP · **Posted:** Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:51 am

I remember Mork and Mindy....Mindy was hot... but now I see it in re-runs, and not so much...

Rush345 · **Posted:** Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:20 pm

USAFCOP wrote:

I remember Mork and Mindy....Mindy was hot... but now I see it in re-runs, and not so much...

She is still hot she 's married to Mark Harmon Agent Leroy Jethro Gibbs on NCIS :shock:

they have 3 kids.

0311_DoC · **Posted:** Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:28 pm

Rush345 wrote:

USAFCOP wrote:

I remember Mork and Mindy....Mindy was hot... but now I see it in re-runs, and not so much...

She is still hot she 's married to Mark Harmon Agent Leroy Jethro Gibbs on NCIS :shock:

they have 3 kids.

Who Pam Dawber??? ( MINDY )

Tokyojoe · **Posted:** Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:00 pm

Little Mindy (Pam Dawber - married to Mark Harmon) is 56 yrs old! She's all grown up.

JHCRASH · **Posted:** Sat Dec 01, 2007 2:04 am

WOW

Rush345 · **Posted:** Sat Dec 01, 2007 3:36 am

Rush345 wrote:

USAFCOP wrote:

I remember Mork and Mindy....Mindy was hot... but now I see it in re-runs, and not so much...

She is still hot she 's married to Mark Harmon Agent Leroy Jethro Gibbs on NCIS :shock:

they have 3 kids.

Once again the OLD MAN bring something to the Table :shock:

raceinfan · **Posted:** Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:06 am

guy's can we keep on topic please :wink:

.....THANKS

Donnie · **Posted:** Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:55 pm

I have a few suggestions:

1.) Make the bumper allow for more ground clearance. Farther from the ground toward the tires and closer in the middle. Like ths FJ for example.

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s313 ... 1195102560

2.) Take some pictures farther away! I can't tell what the jeep looks like with it on.

JHCRASH · **Posted:** Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:25 pm

Donnie wrote:

I have a few suggestions:

1.) Make the bumper allow for more ground clearance. Farther from the ground toward the tires and closer in the middle. Like ths FJ for example.

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s313 ... 1195102560

2.) Take some pictures farther away! I can't tell what the jeep looks like with it on.

The problem with what you are suggesting is it would expose all the things you need to protect Radiator,washer bottle,horns, This bumper is meant to be a bolt on not a change everything on the jeep.And us guys with a CRD dont have an option for moving the washer bottle without huge inconvinience so if what im gathering what you are saying correctly this
would not really work.

I will get some pics farther away though.

Troysterr · **Posted:** Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:50 pm

JHCRASH wrote:

Donnie wrote:

1.) Make the bumper allow for more ground clearance. Farther from the ground toward the tires and closer in the middle. Like ths FJ for example.

The problem with what you are suggesting is it would expose all the things you need to protect Radiator,washer bottle,horns, This bumper is meant to be a bolt on not a change everything on the jeep.And us guys with a CRD dont have an option for moving the washer bottle without huge inconvinience so if what im gathering what you are saying correctly this
would not really work.

You know, even for us gassers, relocating the washer bottle results in about 1/2 the capacity. That's a real pain if you live where there's snow--dirty slush and water are always dirtying up your windshield, so you really need a good supply of washer fluid.

If your primary concern is ground clearance, I'd suggest a RL front bumper. In fact, there are a lot of scenarios where Marty's bumper is going to be better. But I'm only looking for "good enough" approach, and I like the idea of keeping my washer bottle where it is.

Donnie · **Posted:** Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:20 am

JHCRASH wrote:

Donnie wrote:

I have a few suggestions:

1.) Make the bumper allow for more ground clearance. Farther from the ground toward the tires and closer in the middle. Like ths FJ for example.

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s313 ... 1195102560

2.) Take some pictures farther away! I can't tell what the jeep looks like with it on.

The problem with what you are suggesting is it would expose all the things you need to protect Radiator,washer bottle,horns, This bumper is meant to be a bolt on not a change everything on the jeep.And us guys with a CRD dont have an option for moving the washer bottle without huge inconvinience so if what im gathering what you are saying correctly this
would not really work.

I will get some pics farther away though.

Oh gotcha, didn't even think of that. Thanks!

C co Crusader 2/127 · **Posted:** Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:28 am

the horns; at least on the gassers; are not in the bumper. There rightr under the battery. An besides this bumper isnt just ment to function. Its also ment to look like it fits the vehicle. An by bringing the bumper up any farther you may start to expose other things that might get rocked by well a rock or maby a log... whatever. Things like tie rods and anything in that general area. Most of the time; but there are rare times when it does happen; your not going to get perfect functionality and bueaty out of something. Its usually going to be a combintion of the two things.

JHCRASH · **Posted:** Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:39 am

C co Crusader 2/127 wrote:

the horns; at least on the gassers; are not in the bumper. There rightr under the battery. An besides this bumper isnt just ment to function. Its also ment to look like it fits the vehicle. An by bringing the bumper up any farther you may start to expose other things that might get rocked by well a rock or maby a log... whatever. Things like tie rods and anything in that general area. Most of the time; but there are rare times when it does happen; your not going to get perfect functionality and bueaty out of something. Its usually going to be a combintion of the two things.

Very well put

I tried to get as much of both worlds as I possibly could into this bumper and in my oppinion did a pretty good job.the horns on the CRD hang down about 3/4 of what the washer bottle do however they are under the battery.At least they hang that low on mine.

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