Might be moving to Montana, need advice

jinstall · **Posted:** Sun Dec 23, 2007 2:58 am

Yep I might be taking a job in Havre MT, anyone in the area? I need alot of relocation assistance. The net is great but if you have no idea what you are looking for it is hard.

OIL what is there for the CRD? I have been using the dealership here which has been great. From what I read it will be back to me doing the changers and servicese on the CRD.

DEALERS just in case there is somewthing I cannot fit

FUEL what stations are good and whiuch ones to avoid

other things, fishing, hunting, weapons permits, home owning, heating, racing, boating, lingo etc.

Thanks James

AZScout · **Posted:** Sun Dec 23, 2007 5:23 am

I pulled up a map and said "wow, that's small" when I saw the size of the town. Then I kept pulling back and pulling back on the map and then said, "Wow, that's right next to Glacier Nat'l Park. How'd you get so lucky? All I can say is that is some of the most beautiful country on this planet. It might get real cold in the winter and there is a lot of map in between the larger cities. I've heard that people go shopping once a month and stock up on the goodies until the next trip. It's a beautiful place though, and good luck on the move there. Hopefully, someone else can comment on there also.

DarbyWalters · **Posted:** Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:37 am

You will be fine. I have many relatives in Montana...used to live in Butte. You can always get Amsoil shipped directly to your front door...the cold pour points with Amsoil are very advantageous in those conditions. Hunting, Fishing ect is great. Land and housing can be a bit expensive.

jinstall · **Posted:** Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:29 am

I have been looking out of town. I have no issie of driving 20 min to get to work. I would love to have about 400 acres and build a house in the middle. I here was a parcel of 438 acres for $225K!!!!!!! I want a small farm again. packing up for a month at a time is no big deal. I grew up doing that as a kid. "Going into town" was a special time. We even got excited about going to get gas for the car at $0.48 a gallon of LEADED gasoline.

I want to own guns again, so that will be a big plus having 400 acres. The one big issue is racing. I am looking at NASA and SCCA there and it is limited.

JL Rockies · **Posted:** Sun Dec 23, 2007 10:40 am

I am not a big fan. Havre is a dirty little town and I always get a cracked windshield when I go. What is there that you need to relocate to?

litton · **Posted:** Sun Dec 23, 2007 10:40 am

jinstall wrote:

Yep I might be taking a job in Havre MT, anyone in the area? I need alot of relocation assistance. The net is great but if you have no idea what you are looking for it is hard.

OIL what is there for the CRD? I have been using the dealership here which has been great. From what I read it will be back to me doing the changers and servicese on the CRD.

DEALERS just in case there is somewthing I cannot fit

FUEL what stations are good and whiuch ones to avoid

other things, fishing, hunting, weapons permits, home owning, heating, racing, boating, lingo etc.

Thanks James

While I can't speak to Havre specifically, I can give some basic info on the area as we are moving to Polson, MT about 200 miles of so from Havre. Now this is as the crow flies. We will be on the south end of Flathead Lake which is famous for water sports and fishing. The lake is 28miles long, 15 miles wide and 300+ ft deep. Kalispell on the north end is just below Glacier National Park and is a fairly large city (by MT standards).

Hunting is great pretty much all over MT and Elk and deer season are long and inexpensive. Open carry, concealed carry OK without permit except in towns and etc. CCW pretty easy to get and they have good reciprocity (they honour my AZ CCW)

No sales tax but fuel is expensive compared to AZ. I was in Polson in Nov. and #2 diesel was 3.65 but red diesel (farm fuel) was 3.15. #1 diesel was running 4.00 with 50/50 blend in between. Diesel is easy to find as is oil, etc,. Plenty of WalMarts around also. Also plenty of Dodge and Jeep dealers, and many diesel vehicles on the road....although my little CRD was quite a novelty. (I had one chap offer me 24K on the spot while refueling)

Naturally, it can get quite chilly with some snow depending on where you live. Wind can be a problem in the flat areas as can rain. There are plenty of arid areas and forest fires are common and huge.....check into this carefully in Havre.

Good luck with your move.

Sir Sam · **Posted:** Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:16 pm

jinstall wrote:

I have been looking out of town. I have no issie of driving 20 min to get to work. I would love to have about 400 acres and build a house in the middle. I here was a parcel of 438 acres for $225K!!!!!!! I want a small farm again. packing up for a month at a time is no big deal. I grew up doing that as a kid. "Going into town" was a special time. We even got excited about going to get gas for the car at $0.48 a gallon of LEADED gasoline.

I want to own guns again, so that will be a big plus having 400 acres. The one big issue is racing. I am looking at NASA and SCCA there and it is limited.

Turn the going to the sun road into your own track.

I'm going a little stir crazy here, our track closed down over a year ago, and we are still working on getting funding for our new one which looks like it will be delayed untill summer 08.

ARG!

Right now the only track we get to use is the state patrol track, and its only availible to us once or twice a year.

jinstall · **Posted:** Sun Dec 23, 2007 4:49 pm

JL Rockies wrote:

I am not a big fan. Havre is a dirty little town and I always get a cracked windshield when I go. What is there that you need to relocate to?

New job.

jinstall · **Posted:** Sun Dec 23, 2007 4:57 pm

litton wrote:

jinstall wrote:

Yep I might be taking a job in Havre MT, anyone in the area? I need alot of relocation assistance. The net is great but if you have no idea what you are looking for it is hard.

OIL what is there for the CRD? I have been using the dealership here which has been great. From what I read it will be back to me doing the changers and servicese on the CRD.

DEALERS just in case there is somewthing I cannot fit

FUEL what stations are good and whiuch ones to avoid

other things, fishing, hunting, weapons permits, home owning, heating, racing, boating, lingo etc.

Thanks James

While I can't speak to Havre specifically, I can give some basic info on the area as we are moving to Polson, MT about 200 miles of so from Havre. Now this is as the crow flies. We will be on the south end of Flathead Lake which is famous for water sports and fishing. The lake is 28miles long, 15 miles wide and 300+ ft deep. Kalispell on the north end is just below Glacier National Park and is a fairly large city (by MT standards).

Hunting is great pretty much all over MT and Elk and deer season are long and inexpensive. Open carry, concealed carry OK without permit except in towns and etc. CCW pretty easy to get and they have good reciprocity (they honour my AZ CCW)

No sales tax but fuel is expensive compared to AZ. I was in Polson in Nov. and #2 diesel was 3.65 but red diesel (farm fuel) was 3.15. #1 diesel was running 4.00 with 50/50 blend in between. Diesel is easy to find as is oil, etc,. Plenty of WalMarts around also. Also plenty of Dodge and Jeep dealers, and many diesel vehicles on the road....although my little CRD was quite a novelty. (I had one chap offer me 24K on the spot while refueling)

Naturally, it can get quite chilly with some snow depending on where you live. Wind can be a problem in the flat areas as can rain. There are plenty of arid areas and forest fires are common and huge.....check into this carefully in Havre.

Good luck with your move.

good stuff, i really need to learn more on the different grades of diesel though. Here it is jut pump it is all the same.

CCW is good but not sure how it will work with me as I have not lived in the us for 12 years, insurance is being a pain as well.

I really not a big city person so 12k is ok for me

I will check with the USDF on the fire areas

I will check NOAA as well.

jinstall · **Posted:** Sun Dec 23, 2007 5:02 pm

Sir Sam wrote:

jinstall wrote:

I have been looking out of town. I have no issie of driving 20 min to get to work. I would love to have about 400 acres and build a house in the middle. I here was a parcel of 438 acres for $225K!!!!!!! I want a small farm again. packing up for a month at a time is no big deal. I grew up doing that as a kid. "Going into town" was a special time. We even got excited about going to get gas for the car at $0.48 a gallon of LEADED gasoline.

I want to own guns again, so that will be a big plus having 400 acres. The one big issue is racing. I am looking at NASA and SCCA there and it is limited.

Turn the going to the sun road into your own track.

I'm going a little stir crazy here, our track closed down over a year ago, and we are still working on getting funding for our new one which looks like it will be delayed untill summer 08.

ARG!

Right now the only track we get to use is the state patrol track, and its only availible to us once or twice a year.

A friend of mine and I have been setting up events here in Germany through 1 on 1 Motorsports for the past 5 years. Havre has a small airport and I was hoping to talk to them and do some events there. Even if it was my own personal track events. I just need a hanger to store the race car and about 400 cones. You and I may have to link up and see what we can put together. I have no shamme when it comes to racing and I will talk to the govoner of Montana if it takes that to get a location. We do all of our events at Bitberg Airport, google it.

hondo28647 · **Posted:** Sun Dec 23, 2007 5:31 pm

Havre is a big railroad town, BNSF, also home to Montana State Northern College. Close to the Missouri River, and Glacier N.P. not to far. Montana is known for wide open spaces hence its nickname "Big Sky Country", I was born in Billings and get back every couple of years, friendly people, they aren't especially fond of Californians. Great fishing and hunting, lot's of history and great places to visit. If you like the outdoors and great people you should love it. Good luck.

jinstall · **Posted:** Sun Dec 23, 2007 6:59 pm

Thanks it really is sounding like the place I have always wanted to settle down at. I really want to do some fly fishing for trout. Is it easy to get Bison there? I really want to have some in the freezer. I need to find out about the leash law as as well.

Should I invest in a ARB bumper? Full front protector? I have skids already. Maybe I will invest in a lift kit later to put wider tires on the KJ.

Anyone rented a trailer to tow a car? I will have to pick up the KJ in Seattle and then come back in 2 weeks to get the race car. I wanted to do it at the same time but I ma not sure if Uhaul allows One Way with a trailer.

hondo28647 · **Posted:** Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:53 pm

Leash law, Montana, I don't think so. Most drive around with there dog's loose in the back of there pick up's. Don't stick your hand in the pickup, the dog's think the pu's are there's and act accordingly!
Montana is pretty big on letting people do there own thing, just respect the other person doing his own thing.
The golden rule pretty much works there, don't do anything you wouldn't want done to you, personal liberty abounds.
You can buy buffalo anywhere, some canned buffalo hunting, I think, no season, there are no"wild buffalo".
Not much fly fishing near Havre, get down to the Missouri, use the last of the car ferries, really a lot of fun. I think that Lewis and Clark said that the Milk River" was to thick too drink and too thin to plow". Great Fall has the Charles Russell Museum and the new Lewis and Clark exhibit, it goes on and on. Go online and get a copy of Montana Magazine, really great, also Big Sky Magazine. Winter's a real witch on the high line though, again if you like the oudoors there's snowmobiling, dog sledding, cross country skiing etc.

vtdog · **Joined:** Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:27 am **Posts:** 640

My advice for MT: Elk Hair Caddis and Trico Spinners

jinstall · **Posted:** Mon Dec 24, 2007 5:14 am

vtdog wrote:

My advice for MT: Elk Hair Caddis and Trico Spinners

WHAT?

jinstall · **Posted:** Mon Dec 24, 2007 5:58 am

hondo28647 wrote:

Leash law, Montana, I don't think so. Most drive around with there dog's loose in the back of there pick up's. Don't stick your hand in the pickup, the dog's think the pu's are there's and act accordingly!
Montana is pretty big on letting people do there own thing, just respect the other person doing his own thing.
The golden rule pretty much works there, don't do anything you wouldn't want done to you, personal liberty abounds.
You can buy buffalo anywhere, some canned buffalo hunting, I think, no season, there are no"wild buffalo".
Not much fly fishing near Havre, get down to the Missouri, use the last of the car ferries, really a lot of fun. I think that Lewis and Clark said that the Milk River" was to thick too drink and too thin to plow". Great Fall has the Charles Russell Museum and the new Lewis and Clark exhibit, it goes on and on. Go online and get a copy of Montana Magazine, really great, also Big Sky Magazine. Winter's a real &^%$( on the high line though, again if you like the oudoors there's snowmobiling, dog sledding, cross country skiing etc.

I am looking up the magazines now, thanks. Yes I know it is cold there but it is a dry cold not the wet cold we have here. Linville Falls? My dad used to go camping and biking there all the time. Montana sounds like the place I want to live in. I am very disappointed in the loss of respect I have seen in todays young people. I like the old ways. As for the buffalo I was hoping I could get like a quarter from a meat dealer there. I have already found a few places and called them about cow, pig and sheep halves. Are tire chains reqired? If so I will get some from here and bring with me. Do they do vehicle inspections? The next issue will be regitering the cars in Montana DMV and hoping I don't get hammered.

Reflex · **Joined:** Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:48 pm **Posts:** 567

U-Haul lets you rent trailers one way last I checked, I've had plenty of friends move cars that way.

vtdog · **Joined:** Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:27 am **Posts:** 640

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My advice for MT: Elk Hair Caddis and Trico Spinners

WHAT?

If you don't understand about elk hair caddis and trico then you won't be allowed to live in MT

Goglio704 · **Posted:** Tue Dec 25, 2007 4:25 am

I'll go out on a limb without the use of Google. Sounds like fishing references to me.

hondo28647 · **Posted:** Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:03 am

Fly fishing, Montana's Mecca for most fly fisherman. The Madison, Smith, Gallatin, Missouri, Stillwater, Yellowstone, Gibbon, Firehole, Et. Al. I have friends that go every year, sometimes the rivers are real low on water but they go and enjoy. They also enjoy a little bit of bourbon and "ditch". Montana "the Last Best Place".

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