Why Can't I Get Diesel From Big Nozzle Pump ?

barnez224 · **Joined:** Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:28 am **Posts:** 130

Just out of curiousity for those who have used the "big" nozzles to fill up...do these pumps have the 3-position notches to vary the flow of the fuel or is it just a manual/1-notch handle. My question is if the nozzle is does have 3 positions..will putting it on the lowest flow reduce the amount of foam or does it still spill over?

impulse · **Posted:** Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:16 pm

- Butcher the filler, slop fuel - stinks and environmentally bad. Make the Jeep so it can't pass a safety and be sold in some states. Truck stops are dirty on the ground around the pumps. Flying J truck side don't take credit (none take visa- some M/C ). Piss off tired and pressured truckers who are waiting for 200 plus gallons and will be filling from both sides. Just to save 60 cents. Maybe just buy a Jerry can.
Ross

warp2diesel · **Posted:** Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:28 pm

impulse wrote:

- Butcher the filler, slop fuel - stinks and environmentally bad. Make the Jeep so it can't pass a safety and be sold in some states. Truck stops are dirty on the ground around the pumps. Flying J truck side don't take credit (none take visa- some M/C ). Piss off tired and pressured truckers who are waiting for 200 plus gallons and will be filling from both sides. Just to save 60 cents. Maybe just buy a Jerry can.
Ross

What happens when you get stuck in BUM F#*K and there is no diesel besides the big nozzle, my Wife only walks on her terms and not from running out of fuel, she will fill up with the big nozzle :!:

Even when the station has an auto diesel nozzle, the pump can be disabled because the guy with a land barge forgot to hang it up and drove off with it inserted in his filler neck. Another problem is when the auto diesel pump breaks down and the bag it.

Steve

Goglio704 · **Posted:** Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:32 pm

I haven't spilled the first drop as a result of this modification. It looks stock and is in no way illegal. The point for me was not saving money as I have rarely seen much difference in the price. Having been from coast to coast in diesels, I can tell you that there are plenty of little towns where the only diesel to be had is from a nozzle that won't fit an unmodified Jeep. No, I'm not stinking up the passenger compartment with a Jerry can (talk about slopping fuel). And finally, my money is just as green as a trucker's. I'll be filled and gone, and won't be inside getting a shower with my rig blocking a pump.

Coal Cracker · **Posted:** Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:01 am

Well these we're the issues that I was having with the restriction. It's Comin out this weekend. I'm not getting stuck in bumble.uck because there are no low flow pumps. If a trucker is used to waitin for his driver buddy to fill up 200 gal. He can wait for my libby for 20

I've taken count, I have more large nozzles in my proximity than skinny's.

geordi · **Posted:** Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:18 am

Damm straight. I never spilled one drop on my Jetta using the hi-flow, and I'll be dammed if I'm going to hoof it b/c bumfluck didn't bother to install the smaller spout.

Its all about control. If you have problems "controlling your spray" and just can't handle the big pipe... Maybe thats a personal problem. Certainly isn't mine.

And the only diesel that gets the honor of riding inside my KJ is pure BIODIESEL. None other.

Oh, one final thought on this: Most real DRIVERS couldn't give two craps about a little car or Jeep at the truck pumps wasting their time. They are more interested in who is either BADLY confused about what fuel goes in their car (so are preparing to laugh at the idiot who misfuels) or are curious about the ride in general, and give a big THUMBS UP to the proliferation of diesel technology. Especially when they hear the mileage!

Motorhome, Jeep, VW Jetta. I've used them all as a hotel in the truck parking area, and I've filled them all at the high-flow pumps with nary a word of discontent from the truckers. Its just not that big a deal when they have other drivers killing 30 minutes in front of them. Besides, when they are only allowed 10 hours per day driving, it's time they have to spend anyway.

Coal Cracker · **Posted:** Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:47 am

I couldn't have said it better myself. ! :wink:

Herk · **Posted:** Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:12 am

Just a thought Im thinking of carrying a back device that I could clamp to the nozzle that restricts the fuel nozzle size to the KJ fuel opening size."emergency use" what do you guys think?

Goglio704 · **Posted:** Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:48 am

I don't see anything wrong with the idea. With enough searching you might find a funnel that would work. A funnel could be awkward to use though. My concern about such an item would be storing it after use in something so it didn't stink up the interior.

vtdog · **Joined:** Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:27 am **Posts:** 640

I really think that you guys are over thinking this "problem". In the 3 years I have had my CRD (purch 4/2/05) I have had only one instance where I could not fuel the car due to oversize nozzels and an attendant that was a refugee from the Deliverance movie. In any event, I simply drove to another station.
Yes, I know it is possible that you might be almost out of fuel and can't find another station, etc. However, it is possible (I tried) to put the large nozzle with the ring on the end up to the fill point and slowly put some fuel in the car. It takes a while to get a few gallons, but with 2 gallons you can go about another 50 miles to find another station. In addition, if you are going out in the middle of nowhere (and I sometimes do that myself) you are going to carry some fuel anyway. So why worry about this issue, its just not a problem.

Just my 2 cents.

chrispitude · **Posted:** Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:43 pm

vtdog wrote:

I really think that you guys are over thinking this "problem". In the 3 years I have had my CRD (purch 4/2/05) I have had only one instance where I could not fuel the car due to oversize nozzels and an attendant that was a refugee from the Deliverance movie. In any event, I simply drove to another station.
Yes, I know it is possible that you might be almost out of fuel and can't find another station, etc. However, it is possible (I tried) to put the large nozzle with the ring on the end up to the fill point and slowly put some fuel in the car. It takes a while to get a few gallons, but with 2 gallons you can go about another 50 miles to find another station. In addition, if you are going out in the middle of nowhere (and I sometimes do that myself) you are going to carry some fuel anyway. So why worry about this issue, its just not a problem.

Just my 2 cents.

Hi vtdog,

I agree. It can be a bit of a pain to find the right nozzle, but I've never actually not beein able to fuel up at a station. Sometimes it takes more searching around than others. Worst-case, drizzle some fuel in and move along.

- Chris

Goglio704 · **Posted:** Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:19 pm

Obviously, individual experience will determine whether this is worth doing. For me it was an easy, inexpensive mod that took care of a design decision that I didn't agree with. For most people, it probably wouldn't be worth doing. I was prompted to do it after encountering a B99 pump at the Co-op that wouldn't go in the filler neck (it had no ring.) Between the flow rate of the nozzle and the little stainless flapper in the neck, it was somewhat messy. Doable, but messy. It has come in real handy on at least two other occasions when traveling. BTW, people do tend to modify Jeeps to suit their own needs and wishes. It's OK, really it is. :wink:

If you want, you can even replace parts that are still working.

Magnum · **Posted:** Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:13 pm

If you go to the big pump they flow at 60 gpm at high setting

geordi · **Posted:** Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:25 pm

COOL - Fill up in 20 seconds! I've used those before on filling large 55 gallon drums - some might flow 15 per minute, but nowhere near 60. It took at least 5 minutes to fill a drum.

Seriously, you CAN use the larger nozzle for our Jeeps, it just takes some CONTROL to do it.

warp2diesel · **Posted:** Sat Mar 22, 2008 3:59 pm

Answer: 1 3/16" (30.16mm)

More details:

http://www.opw-fc.com/product_detail.as ... id=337#337

Steve

Why Can't I Get Diesel From Big Nozzle Pump ?

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