NY TIMES CAUTIOUS ON DIESEL

vtdog · **Joined:** Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:27 am **Posts:** 640

http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/tag/die ... sel&st=nyt

indianrefining · **Posted:** Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:54 am

vtdog wrote:

http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/tag/diesel/?scp=1-b&sq=diesel&st=nyt

I wouldn't believe the New York imes if they said that the Sun was going to come up tomorrow. :roll:

Uffe · **Posted:** Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:22 pm

Seems to be a pretty good article to me though.

It is a fact that diesel prices are rising this time of year. I am told this is because many houses which are heated using oil (actually heated using diesel) are restocking their 250 gallon tanks at this time of year.

Diesel prices should continue to be high for a month or two then it should drop a bit.

This story is true for Denmark where many houses are heated using diesel. It's nearly a crime to use electricity to heat ones house here.

DadsDiesel · **Posted:** Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:04 am

I just love when a reporter starts comparing one vehicle to another by just "doing the math".

even if gas stays $3/gallon and #2 is $4/gallon clearly 1/3 more does not the math also work out to be 33% better fuel economy = net 0 change?

Ahh yes, then how do you ever pay for that "expensive" diesel option? That is what the author is saying yes???

But wait, I can have a car/truck that has better performance, torque, economy, longevity..... (diesel)

But, alas, I am as biased as the author of that article.

C.

Ripster · **Posted:** Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:58 am

According to my math, I like diesel so the cost of the engine is not considered. Price and mileage alone, gas at $3 diesel would have
to be $5 for me to consider changing, and with the TDI gas at $3 and Diesel at $7 so I am in for the long haul. NY times is out of
touch with most of the country and what they would buy and drive.

Joe Romas · **Posted:** Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:48 am

On close to 20 diesels I've found that in my real world driving the percentage is between 40 and 50% better then gasoline :lol:

I've never owned a gasoline car that even came close to the epa estimate and never had a diesel that got that little :shock:

(till the CRD)
Comparing apples to apples, my past three XJ's averaged half of my CRD's on my normal in town driving MPG :lol:

Now highway is a different story, 23 on the crd verses 21 on the last XJ. This is where my CRD falls on it's face. But since most of my driving is short trip city driving I'm happy

I think the big factor against the CRD is it's height. Not to mention it weights about 1000 pounds more

DadsDiesel · **Posted:** Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:21 pm

hi - I wanted to use low numbers to make a point. "promise less and deliver more". So in your experience, diesels provide even better economy? All the better. It seems there is something going on in the US against diesels..... Time to educate.

jinstall · **Posted:** Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:26 pm

Wow, such crap. They only look into enough info to prove their point. Look at the sales around the world.

StarDreamer.us · **Joined:** Fri Oct 06, 2006 9:15 pm **Posts:** 63

Why would any person ever believe what is printed in the NYTimes? It is not even good to use as a fish wrapper.

What a waste of a good tree.

NY TIMES CAUTIOUS ON DIESEL

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