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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:45 am 
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Now that is not a bad idea at all. I don't even know that you'd need it to be so electronic, just having something external to run to your normal fill location and a pump would do the trick. I don't mind pumping it, I just don't wanna get stranded.


Electronic? Only electrical parts involved would be a 12V Facet thumper pump and an on/off switch. From your description I think you meant "mechanically complex".

In either setup, this would in essence be no different than pulling up to a pump at a truck stop and refilling the fuel tank - except we already have the fuel on board and don't need the truck stop.

Either setup would work just as well getting fuel into the tank. The one advantage to what I described, with having a pump that can be remotely operated from the cab and already having the outlet hose plumbed to the fill neck of the fuel tank, is that you could refill the fuel tank while still driving down the road.

Even if you're not inclined to or are nervous with filling "on the fly" so to speak, there are situations where this capability would be an advantage - if you're low on fuel and there's no safe place to pull over and perform a refill at hand, you could transfer over just a few gallons to keep you going until you reach the next rest area. Or in the case of truly inclement weather, you can pull into a rest area, switch on the pump until the tank is refilled, then go on your way - all from the safety and comfort of inside the vehicle.

And as far as the "safety" aspect - there's been a few rest areas I've pulled into over the years, especially at night, that I've wondered whether or not I was going to get assaulted or mugged if I got out of the vehicle. Pulling out a transfer hose and manually refilling the tank advertises to anyone within view that you have fuel that is easily accessible for the taking - not much different than having a couple of fuel cans strapped to a trailer hitch basket behind the vehicle.

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Nice. I have a Facet left over from the lift pump project (went with the in tank pump). Maybe I have found what I want to do with it...


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if you are going to go through the effort of putting an extra fuel tank in the liberty and
a pump ( assuming that you are putting it in the back of the truck inside) why don't you
just seal all the vents or extend them and put a connection between the two tanks so
you fill one it flows into the other and you stay on " F" for 300 miles? no electronics.

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05infernoCRDL wrote:
if you are going to go through the effort of putting an extra fuel tank in the liberty and
a pump ( assuming that you are putting it in the back of the truck inside) why don't you
just seal all the vents or extend them and put a connection between the two tanks so
you fill one it flows into the other and you stay on " F" for 300 miles? no electronics.

Wouldn't that actually make the gas gague work just fine since the level between the tanks would equalize, so the floater would still go down, just much slower?

Forgive me of course if I'm horribly out of date on how fuel levels are measured in tanks...

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Reflex wrote:
05infernoCRDL wrote:
if you are going to go through the effort of putting an extra fuel tank in the liberty and
a pump ( assuming that you are putting it in the back of the truck inside) why don't you
just seal all the vents or extend them and put a connection between the two tanks so
you fill one it flows into the other and you stay on " F" for 300 miles? no electronics.

Wouldn't that actually make the gas gague work just fine since the level between the tanks would equalize, so the floater would still go down, just much slower?

Forgive me of course if I'm horribly out of date on how fuel levels are measured in tanks...


It would if you had one tube connecting the tops of the tanks (air) and one connecting the bottoms (fuel). Your gage would drop very very slowly, but otherwise normal.

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CATCRD wrote:
Reflex wrote:
Wouldn't that actually make the gas gague work just fine since the level between the tanks would equalize, so the floater would still go down, just much slower?

Forgive me of course if I'm horribly out of date on how fuel levels are measured in tanks...


It would if you had one tube connecting the tops of the tanks (air) and one connecting the bottoms (fuel). Your gage would drop very very slowly, but otherwise normal.


if the tanks were side by side yes... but my example would be say a square tank the size of the
cargo area and say 6 inches deep... since they are stacked wouldn't the fuel drain out of the
top then when that one was empty it would start to read on the gauge like the normal tank... the
tanks you two are talking about would be side by side as in big rig fuel tanks.

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05infernoCRDL wrote:
CATCRD wrote:
It would if you had one tube connecting the tops of the tanks (air) and one connecting the bottoms (fuel). Your gage would drop very very slowly, but otherwise normal.


if the tanks were side by side yes... but my example would be say a square tank the size of the
cargo area and say 6 inches deep... since they are stacked wouldn't the fuel drain out of the
top then when that one was empty it would start to read on the gauge like the normal tank... the
tanks you two are talking about would be side by side as in big rig fuel tanks.


Correct. I didn't think anyone was proposing putting a permanent tank in the trunk.

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CATCRD wrote:

Correct. I didn't think anyone was proposing putting a permanent tank in the trunk.


okay.. i still don't know if there is a need for a transfer pump if the tanks are hooked together...
and with two you could take from one and put back in the other... i think that would reduce the
foam and dissipate the heat in the fuel if hot return fuel is a problem.

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