Hummer H3 Vs Liberty (specs)

PitViper · **Posted:** Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:19 pm

Hummer H3 Specs

HORSEPOWER 220 hp @ 5600 rpm
TORQUE 225 lb-ft @ 2800 rpm

GROUND CLEARANCE
STANDARD SUSPENSION: 8.5 in.
OFF-ROAD SUSPENSION PKG: 9.1 in.

TRAILERING, MAXIMUM(10) 4,500 lbs.

Turning radius 37ft

APPROACH ANGLE
STANDARD SUSPENSION: 37.5
OFF-ROAD SUSPENSION PKG: 39.4

DEPARTURE ANGLE
STANDARD SUSPENSION3: 35.5 OFF-ROAD
SUSPENSION PKG: 36.5

BREAKOVER ANGLE
STANDARD SUSPENSION: 23.5
OFF-ROAD SUSPENSION PKG: 25.0

Hummer H3 4x4 Base MSRP $29,500
Hummer H3 4x4 + Off Road package Base MSRP$30,525

Liberty Specs

HORSEPOWER 210hp @ 5200
TORQUE 235lb-ft @ 4000

GROUND CLEARANCE 9.0 renegade, 9.4 in. Limited

TRAILERING, MAXIMUM 5,000 lbs.

Turning radius 35.9ft

Approach Angle 35.7 renegade, Limited 37.5

Departure Angle 31.5

Breakover Angle 19.8 renegade, Limited 21.8

2005 Jeep Liberty Renegade 4X4 Base MSRP: $23,775
2005 Jeep Liberty Limited 4X4:Base MSRP $25,325

Skyjump136 · **Joined:** Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:50 pm **Posts:** 1633

We saw a ton of the H3s while we were up at Yellowstone earlier this month. I looked them over and honestly they don't look too bad (too expensive for me though). Those specs for the KJ ground clearance are using "running clearance" and don't really reflect that the front diff hangs down to about 6.5" in stock form. I'm not sure why Jeep needs to lie about this instead of actually giving us some clearance!

Kaboom · **Joined:** Thu Jul 07, 2005 10:03 pm **Posts:** 31

I checked out an H3 really well in the IHOP parking lot today. Here's one spec you didn't list ...

I looks to me like 35" tires might just fit with stock suspension. Can't say the same for a Liberty

krazz1e · **Posted:** Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:12 pm

I check out the h3 at the dealership, without the offroad package they look funky. With the offroad package they look pretty good.

On a side note, I saw a new h3 commerical on the TV, it show it wheeling in moab, 1 of my favorites was it going over the golden spike. Pretty sweet.

Question is, if you take it there really and bust something will they be as nice as when you bought it?? Probably not.

33" Tires Stock, Lockers, 4:1 gearing... it's got potential, better than the h2 and affordable, 33k one fully loaded w/ off road package.

jeepkj02 · **Posted:** Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:16 pm

sure we can..all you have to do is chop of the fender flares and fenders and some of the bumper. then you can easily fit a 35" and with a 2.5-3" lift you can fit a 37". :-)r

Calvin56 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:59 am **Posts:** 345

I like how the H3's look, only complaint is their price and lack of a V-8/diesel option. I don't like the fact that the libby doesn't have a V-8 option either, but I got my renny for 15K, so the price was right

LibertyCRD · **Posted:** Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:52 pm

Yeah there is NO way the Libby has the same ground clearance as the H3. The Liberty has about the same ground clearance as a Mustang GT. It's really sad. That, in my opinion, is the #1 thing holding the KJ back...

joejjeeep · **Posted:** Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:44 pm

That and the inability to have a feasable lift of more than 3inches.

I really am not liking the fact that I just am not sure what lift is best because I really think the jeep heads could have put together a better IFS system than what we currently have. I do appreciate all the help this forum has given me.

I will say that the KJ bunch seems to be much more RESPECTFUL than the wrangler and xj bunch that i am usually in contact with on forums. Anyone have any insight into that? Does IFS breed intelligence?

jpzkj · **Posted:** Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:47 pm

I looked at one today and noticed that the rear shock mounts are really low and in the way. The shock mount on the KJ is low also...but its very close to the wheel which keeps it from getting hit by rocks that your tire is on. The H3 looked like it would be in the way more often becuase it was about 1/2 way between the wheel and the diff. So, you would have to keep track of where the diff was...where the shock was...and where the tire was. Thats allot since I can barely keep track of my diff !!

The interior is pretty squared off....the seats look more comfortable I will say that.

The salesperson said the price ranges from 28K to 38K....I can't see paying that kind of coin for it. :shock:

bennybmn · **Posted:** Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:57 pm

4:1 gears and the ABILITY, not just space, to handle 35 or 37" tires... that goes a LONG way if you ask me. Just read the C&D review of the H3, good reviews!!

Liberator84 · **Posted:** Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:47 am

I saw someone on here but I can't find it had a decal that said H3 Recovery team. If you put it on here can you post it here again I would like to set it as my back ground. Thanks!

~JUD

Se7enLC · **Posted:** Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:27 am

PitViper wrote:

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GROUND CLEARANCE 9.0 renegade, 9.4 in. Limited

If by 9.4" you mean 6.5", then sure!

ARBSeth · **Posted:** Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:42 pm

http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/ ... 4681038941

Hate to say it, but I loved going wheeling with these guys. All bone stock, red one had the Slamma Jamma Offroad package, but they all did equally well getting up those rocks and through some NASTY stuff my Buddy Mike and I took em through. I took the Company TJ and my buddy Mike's XJ runs 35" tires. They kept up until we decided we'd had about enough, but I couldn't have gotten the KJ I own any further than they got stock. And we all have seen the list of my KJ mods.

We both REALLY wanted to drive em as the guys who came with us where pretty much newbies. I was impressed, made me rethink my FJ Cruiser choice for a new rig this summer.... yes, they're spendy...but comfy on the inside and surprisingly capable.

uvalax236 · **Posted:** Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:08 pm

joejjeeep wrote:

I will say that the KJ bunch seems to be much more RESPECTFUL than the wrangler and xj bunch that i am usually in contact with on forums. Anyone have any insight into that? Does IFS breed intelligence?

The KJ was the root of all jokes in the Jeep world when it first came out. There were lots of crule comments to KJ owners and since LOST has just been a very nice and respectable club. Im glad it is the way it is. I will continue to be a active member of LOST for as long as I own anything that has the letters "J E E P"!

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:22 pm

Ive got an ome lift and ive got 8.5 at the front skid with stock tires.

The libby is not made for off roading, it can go off roading with some mods, but its not made to do what the H3 is. Im not saying it cant do what the h3 can, but without a lift and good tires, the libby is not near as good as an h3. I would rather have my libby that has the lift over any hummer though. I think they do 0-60 in like 12 sec. Towing 2500k behind the libby would be like driving an h3 with no load. :shock:

ManicMechanicJoe · **Posted:** Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:42 pm

jeepkj02 wrote:

sure we can..all you have to do is chop of the fender flares and fenders and some of the bumper. then you can easily fit a 35" and with a 2.5-3" lift you can fit a 37". :-)r

Time to bust out the Dewalt 18volt Sawzall (with my bimetal Fire and Rescue Blades) :twisted:

CTKJ · **Posted:** Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:45 pm

I like the look of the H3, but I don't have any confidence in a 5 cyl GM motor. Also knowing it is based on the leaf spring Colorado PU platform can't understand the price.

MrCRD · **Posted:** Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:57 am

I would just like to say that I think this crowd is great group. I own Jeeps and I love them, however I think that the H3 is a great vehicle. I've talked to other Jeep people and they look at me like I have horns growing out of my head when commenting on the H3. I mean come on how can you not like a 4:1 transfer case. As far as the KJ goes I would say that it can do a heck of a lot before it gets into trouble. Of course that comment works with any Jeep vehicle that I have driven.

PS.. Wave dammit... It's not just a Wrangler thing.

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