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 Post subject: Mahindra Truck/SUV diesel, 35 - 40+ mpg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:12 pm 
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Launch date for the U.S.A. - Spring 2009
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Since I won't buy foreign I have to hope it sells well so Dodge follows suit...

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They are being assembled from knock down kits in Springfield Ohio by a unnamed company :?: However Springfield isn't that big and there's a IH plant there :lol:

Relax Reflex, the seats in your next Jeep will be made in India :roll: It's one of Chrysler's cost cutting ideas :wink:

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Joe Romas wrote:
They are being assembled from knock down kits in Springfield Ohio by a unnamed company :?: However Springfield isn't that big and there's a IH plant there :lol:

Relax Reflex, the seats in your next Jeep will be made in India :roll: It's one of Chrysler's cost cutting ideas :wink:
The next Jeeps may be made in India.


Not that it matters since the CRD's have a Itailian engine and most of the parts where designed by a German car company that where made in Mexico or Canada,assembled in the USA though.


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Mahindra will offer a two door and four door pickup and an SUV, special editions of each, 105.5 inch wheelbase for the SUV and 119.7 inch wheel base for the truck, inline 4 common-rail diesel and a six speed transmission, Independent front suspension and rear solid axle, the SUV will have seating for 7 people.

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Their little agricultural tractors aren't half bad. Now that we tought them how to make steel, oh I forgot it's our steel they're buyin all our scrap. :evil:

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I dunno, just might sell

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I dunno, just might sell


priced in the lower 20's! Oh, and will have the option for LOCKERS

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Joe Romas wrote:
They are being assembled from knock down kits in Springfield Ohio by a unnamed company :?: However Springfield isn't that big and there's a IH plant there :lol:

Relax Reflex, the seats in your next Jeep will be made in India :roll: It's one of Chrysler's cost cutting ideas :wink:

Where is the engineering performed? Where are the support services? Where is it managed from? And where do the corporate profits go? These things mean far more to me than where the assembly location is.

Yes, I buy as American as possible. I am aware that its not possible to do so 100%. But working in an industry that is increasingly getting outsourced(software development) I will do my level best to not send any other American's job elsewhere. Its the least I can do, hopefully some return the favor down the line...

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Joe Romas wrote:
They are being assembled from knock down kits in Springfield Ohio by a unnamed company :?: However Springfield isn't that big and there's a IH plant there :lol:

Relax Reflex, the seats in your next Jeep will be made in India :roll: It's one of Chrysler's cost cutting ideas :wink:

Where is the engineering performed? Where are the support services? Where is it managed from? And where do the corporate profits go? These things mean far more to me than where the assembly location is.

Yes, I buy as American as possible. I am aware that its not possible to do so 100%. But working in an industry that is increasingly getting outsourced(software development) I will do my level best to not send any other American's job elsewhere. Its the least I can do, hopefully some return the favor down the line...


Reflex, have you read the book, "The World Is Flat" by Thomas Friedman?

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I think Chrysler would have been better off partnering with these guys than Cherry. What in the world would possess a company to share its intellectual property with a communist nation known for stealing IP? Are they that stupid? Not too mention that those Cherry cars are plain sad and scary.

It is a nice looking vehicle. You have to wonder who would work on it when it breaks, does it have a warranty, where do I gets parts for it, etc?


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I think Chrysler would have been better off partnering with these guys than Cherry. What in the world would possess a company to share its intellectual property with a communist nation known for stealing IP? Are they that stupid? Not too mention that those Cherry cars are plain sad and scary.

It is a nice looking vehicle. You have to wonder who would work on it when it breaks, does it have a warranty, where do I gets parts for it, etc?


Warranty - Four-years, 60,000-miles, bumper-to-bumper, including free maintenance and urea (refills) too. The truck will be serviced at the same dealer where the truck was bought. 300-400 dealers by the time the truck goes on sale. The trucks will only be sold from existing automobile dealers. Buyers are going to be able to special order trucks, just like you would any other car from another car company. The turnaround time for orders will be around 3 to 4 months, and they are expecting the same amount of time for a special order to be delivered. They have targeted to sell an initial 45,000 units in the first year - for both trucks and SUVs [Mahindra will also import two SUVs to sell in the U.S., starting in 2009]. They are going to let the retailers drive production. And recently, they are thinking about building a plant here in the U.S.

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I am thinking the pickup in in my future. It would have been a CRD for my wife and a Gladiator for me...but.
In 2009 it will be my wife with the CRD (Maybe) and me with a 4x4 diesel pickup

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I really think the 4dr PU will be my next daily driver....If diesel returns to a more reasonable price as compared to gas!!

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Looks like the Datsun\Toyota 4 small-passenger pickem-ups from the '80's, built on the 2-pass pickup frame - never sold in the US, the bed had little support behind the axle, so even a tailgate party would warp the tailgate and frame

The 2-pass version is way smaller, narrower, sorta like a Jeep\Jeep pickup from the '50's, stylized, with the Wrangler's square headlites from the '80's-'90's

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...or are they going to let these guys be their guinea pigs?
The Japanese took over a big share of the market because Detroit would not listen to the public.
Now I am getting the feeling that the Japanese have become all most as complacent as Detroit was back in the '70s. I sense this by the way the Rental vehicles I use for work drive and handle, the Nissan Xterra, Toyota Highlander, and Toyota Rav4 were all disappointments to say the least and did not even measure up to Hyundai and KIA.
Korea, China, and now India are next to make a stab at the US/Canadian market and the Mahindra may be the first round.

Mahindra may not only kick Detroit in the crotch, but Japan as well.

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Reflex, have you read the book, "The World Is Flat" by Thomas Friedman?

I have not read the book although I am familiar with Friedman and his positions. The problem with completely open markets is that it assumes all markets are on a level playing field, when in truth due to differences in regulations(enviro/financial/human rights/workers rights/government subsidies) the playing field is anything but. Jim Press recently stated that 100% of the Toyota Prius was financed by the Japanese government, and he was in a position to know this for a fact(Toyota is denying it). How is that fair competition?

Now keep in mind I'm not a protectionist calling for massing federal legislation to keep foreign brands out. I'm not even proposing tarrifs to level the playing field(although carefully applied I'm not against them either). I am more interested in educating the US consumer so that they can see how outsourcing ourselves into a sales/consumer economy damages our long term prospects as a nation. If they still choose to follow that path, then their right to complain about it later is nil.

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Not sure if the Ciberus sell off has anything to do with it but the KK has still not been released here yet.

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Their biggest challenge will be getting the supply chain and dealer support network up and going so parts and service are available. Starting out, they will have the same problem our CRD's did (techs with no idea how to work on a diesel) and poor parts availibility.

If after a couple years of sales in the US these vehicles prove to be of decent quality, don't be surprised to see Ford, GM, or Chrysler partner with Mahindra, and start offering their trucks under their own nameplates.

Same thing happened in the late 70's and early 80's when oil prices shot up, and the Big 3 were caught with their pants down and nothing in the way of decent vehicles in the pipeline with reasonably good MPG. The Chevy Luv, early Ford Rangers, and small Dodge's were all rebadged Japanese trucks.

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