You have better hills to run it on too

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2006 Pearl Green CRD
Magnaflow 2 1/2" Cat Back
KJ Extra Leg Room Brackets, Carter Lift Pump, V6 Airbox, ORM
Fuel cooler, Oil Separator, Progard 7
Gauges EGT Boost Trans Temp Oil Pres, Michelin LXT AT2 245 70 R16
7,000# Draw Tight hitch, PML EX Deep Trans Pan
Centrifuge, SunCoast, Transgo, RAM TCM, InMotion Stage 2
Wife's 99 TDI VW Beetle

The problem with our $ is to many Americans want to buy as cheap as possible: If theY would demand American
shoes instead of made in China and American clothes Tools or any thing else they buy then our Dollar would recover and get
stronger. How many of you CRD owners buy American Tennis shoes or Blue Jeans? Like wise for some of you tools.
Hand or Power: Remember this as long as we crave cheap then the dollar will sink. BUY AMERICAN. IT YOU CANNOT FIND
IT IN THE STORE THE GO TO THE FOLLOWING WEB SITE HOWTOBUYAMERICAN.COM YOU WILL FIND ALL YOU NEED THERE.
WHY GIVE OUR HARD EARNED CASH TO SOME CHINESE, OR OTHER COUNTRY. POINT TO REMEMBER WE ARE FUNDING
THE CHINESE RED ARMY. NAVY AND AIR FORCE. THATS A FACT. AND OUR OIL MONEY GOES TO HELP FUND THE ISLAMIC
TERRORIST. END OF STORY.

JIM

There is an AMERICAN company that makes shoes?

Levis are sew together where?

Craftsman tools are made where?

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No longer a CRD or Jeep owner. Selling everything I have, needs to go as I need the room for a project.

There are LOTS of "American Companies" manufacturing stuff... However it's the manufacturing that is taking place outside this country.

One reason why I get very frustrated with people insisting on buying a Ford or GM simply because it is an "American Company" when they should know by now that the "American" car makers are building everything in Mexico and Communist China. I would suggest that where a company's management is from, is irrelevant compared to where most of the workers are. By that thinking, Toyota, Nissan, and Subaru are the new American car makers. Chrysler, Ford, and GM all make certain lines here still... But we have already seen that Chrysler and GM are DEEP in bed with the Chinese, and Ford and GM have been moving more and more of their lines to Mexico.

How does that live up to the "Buy American Build America" slogan? Not well, I should think.

Sound advice.
But let's not distance ourselves from conflict. It isn't the conflict that is the problem but the demonization of people with differing viewpoints. While it may not be your responsibility to change anyone's politics, a case might be made that it is your responsibility to share important information that, in the process of sharing, may disturb someone's political sensibilities. Democracy is noisy and obnoxious - or at least it should be. If it is not, then there is not a variety of ideas being debated.
But no, we don't have to get mean and nasty or see each other as enemies. The fact is, we all share the same problem and we are only going to solve it by taking responsibility and sharing ideas. That is why I am here.

Let's face it, as of right now, all we have is each other. All we have is each other's ideas and suggestions.
You may hate me, but I'm all you got brother.

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2005 CRD Limited:
* 245/70/16 Nokian Vatiiva
* Magnaflow
* Kennedy Diesel lift pump
* Custom CCV condensor
* Custom modified thermostat housing w/bleeder valve

2006 CRD Limited (wife's)
* Bone stock

Despite it all, we still pay less at the pump than the rest of the western world.

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2006 CRD http://www.UtahPowderCoatings.com/ http://www.gorecon.com/ I'm kind of a big deal.
RL rear bumper, ARB front bumper, Mile Marker winch, Power Tank, Skids by Mopar & Skid Row, RL Super Skink Sliders, 235/85R16 MTR, Air Flow Snorkel, DTT, 4.10 gears, Frankenlift II, Katskin leather, JL Audio stereo, Rosen video.

Industry(reflecting the common political composite 40% liberal, 40% conservative, 20% independent) through out the world cycles between Bean Counters and Marketing oriented managers. Marketing wants to Sell Sell Sell and all Bean Counters know is Cut Cut Cut. When Marketing people are in charge we get new innovations and products as long as the wave keeps going and things are great. Bean counters sit back and prepare for when they get back in power. When the bottom line goes red the Bean Counters move in and cut models, move plants over seas, and come up with paper work burdensome programs for sales, service, reps, and dealers to fill out to "get things under control and contain costs". When a competitor comes along who starts kicking butt, the Marketing forces move back in and Bean Counters are pushed aside.

When the price of oil was $10 per barrel Bean Counters were running the oil companies and along with the environmental regulations they had a great excuse not to drill or add refinery capacity (they can do it right and respect the environment). Now with the price at $125 the Marketing forecasters are predicting the oil price will go up to $200 per barrel and drop to $100 a barrel. At $100 a barrel every thing is OK and why do anything besides sell petroleum products and stifle any potential competition from other sources.

As much as I like Biodiesel, it is not enough to deliver the needed salvo and put this to an end, there will need to be another new innovation, process, or competing energy source to kick them in the butt. Nuclear and Fusion need to be developed more to take the burden off of natural gas, but this will take too long and perpetuate the status quo.

Lets say that a Japanese, Indian, or Chinese company comes up with a way to process oil into Gasoline and Diesel en route aboard a large ship and deliver the finished product to port, Even if not one drop made it to North America, that would kick the oil refiners in the butt.

Lets say the South African companies come up with a small compact unit that could be pulled behind an 18 wheeler that would turn coal into Gasoline and Diesel on site. Again even if not one drop made it to North America, that would kick the oil companies in the butt.

Lets say that a home brewer finds a way to use bacteria to make oil out of garbage and this unit could be hooked onto an 18 wheeler and brought to any remote location, this would be another kick in the butt to the oil companies.

Oil producers, oil companies, and refineries all need a kick in the butt to put them into the creative mood and the only way to do this is some serious competition from some one outside of their big oil country club.

Not all of our elected officials in both parties are in the back pocket of the big oil country club and having a rig that can be hauled to a site that can process garbage into Gasoline and Diesel would be a great item for them to fight for positive legislation to add a competitor to the energy supply market.

Steve

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2006 Pearl Green CRD
Magnaflow 2 1/2" Cat Back
KJ Extra Leg Room Brackets, Carter Lift Pump, V6 Airbox, ORM
Fuel cooler, Oil Separator, Progard 7
Gauges EGT Boost Trans Temp Oil Pres, Michelin LXT AT2 245 70 R16
7,000# Draw Tight hitch, PML EX Deep Trans Pan
Centrifuge, SunCoast, Transgo, RAM TCM, InMotion Stage 2
Wife's 99 TDI VW Beetle

Politicians are all lying weasles. The only choice the voter has is to hopefully pick the least weasliest

I have read a heck of a lot on the alternative energy front in the past 20 years and I can say with confidence the technologies are dang near ready to take us into a new energy world - in some cases they already exist. We just don't hear much about them.
Investment capital is still thin but I think that will change. We also need a sense of urgency - and there ain't nothin' like a good fuel scare to get people to pay attention to this issue. Still, I would love to see a Manhattan Project on this issue. We could lead the world in this area - and it is so sad that we don't.
Alternative energy: It ain't just for hippies any more.
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I don't know how many times and in how many forums I have discussed this issue: We will most likely be entering a complex energy future where fuels such as biodiesel play a role. Biodiesel could play a major role - and there are new technologies that can turn most any biomass into biofuel - but to focus on any particular fuel as THE answer only leads to disappointment followed by smirks and head shaking. I view biofuels as a relatively easy opening salvo in this topic. It is a start and will pave the way for further development of other alternatives. All will play a role.

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2005 CRD Limited:
* 245/70/16 Nokian Vatiiva
* Magnaflow
* Kennedy Diesel lift pump
* Custom CCV condensor
* Custom modified thermostat housing w/bleeder valve

2006 CRD Limited (wife's)
* Bone stock

Too many big businesses look at people like Bill Gates who started MicroSoft in a garage and plan to sit on their collective butts and wait for the solution to fall in their lap. When the Land Grant University gets the right PHD candidate, Small Company gets lucky, or the Home Brewer cooks up something that works, they evaluate the best way to take over as cheap as they can, why take any risk? The Oil Industry has done this to Wildcat drillers for years, Pharmaceutical companies have done this to creative research labs for years and when you look at the bottom line, this is the cheapest way to get what they need. Buy the successes for less than $0.50 on the dollar and blow off the failures. It is depressing when Good Contract Lawyers are more valuable than scientists.

As much as I want a private sector salvo to be fired at the Big Oil Country Club and not have the Government use the carrot and stick approach, it may take both to get the Big Oil Country Club collective butts in gear, hire the mechanical,process, control, and chemical engineers, micro-biologists, and technicians.

Otherwise look for the Bunny Ranch in Reno, NV to give away their carbon credits with every therapy session as a way to get them more business as the greatest innovation.

Meanwhile, if any of us can come up with the motivational salvo, the Big Oil Country Club may get it in gear.

Steve

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2006 Pearl Green CRD
Magnaflow 2 1/2" Cat Back
KJ Extra Leg Room Brackets, Carter Lift Pump, V6 Airbox, ORM
Fuel cooler, Oil Separator, Progard 7
Gauges EGT Boost Trans Temp Oil Pres, Michelin LXT AT2 245 70 R16
7,000# Draw Tight hitch, PML EX Deep Trans Pan
Centrifuge, SunCoast, Transgo, RAM TCM, InMotion Stage 2
Wife's 99 TDI VW Beetle

Now that's funny... I just got a new Northern Tool catalog and yep there's a bio-d processor in it. You can even finance it. Kinda defeats the purpose.... only $299 a month.

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2005 sport crd-SOLD No regrets

I don't hate anybody (well, with the possible exception of my neighbor who likes to crank up his Harley at 7:00 AM on Sunday mornings).

I don't disagree on sharing good info and trying to keep an open mind. I just get annoyed when a generally friendly forum like this has a discussion on bio-diesel or something that degenerates into "commie pinko Democrats won't let me drill in my neighbor's petunia's for oil!!!!!" or "right-wing nutcase Republicans want to fuel their Hummer's with blood from Iraqi toddlers!!!" I can do without that stuff (though I confess that when I see it I often can't resist making a sarcastic comment.)

With election season rolling around, I just foresee that stuff getting out of hand. Back in 2004 I saw it turn a couple of fishing forums I frequent into war zones that ended up turning off a lot of good participants so much that they left.

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2006 Liberty CRD Limited
Mopar engine, transmission, transfer case skids
245/70/16 Michelin Latitude X-Ice (winter)
235/75/16 Firestone Destination ATs (summer)
Thule roof rack, cargo box
V6 airbox mod
Flowmaster 50 2.5 inch muffler
Edge EZ module (set for fuel economy)
SEGR
TDIWagonGuy CCV filter
B99 (summer), B20 (winter)

Oil has soared past $127 for the first time today 5/16/2008.

"Saudi oil minister Ali al-Naimi said the kingdom decided on May 10 to increase production by 300,000 barrels a day to help meet U.S. needs after Venezuela and Mexico cut back deliveries."

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2015 Ram Ecodiesel/Big Horn/4x4/Quad Cab
2016 Arctic Fox 22G/Onboard 2500 LP Cummins Onan Generator/160 Watt Solar Panel

I took the road less traveled. Now I'm LOST.

Guess the Speculators didn't get the word

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2005 CRD Sport
2003 Honda Valkyrie

I filled up a couple of days ago. # 2 was $4.30 a gal. Cost me 90+ bucks. hows the price else where?
Jim

It is $4.59 in Hannibal, OH and $4.89 in Paden City, WV!

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08 Elantra SE daily driver
2001 F-250 powerstroke

http://www.townhall.com/funnies/2008/05/16/5
http://www.townhall.com/funnies/2008/05/16/9
http://www.townhall.com/funnies/2008/05/16/10

Good laugh.

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2006 Pearl Green CRD
Magnaflow 2 1/2" Cat Back
KJ Extra Leg Room Brackets, Carter Lift Pump, V6 Airbox, ORM
Fuel cooler, Oil Separator, Progard 7
Gauges EGT Boost Trans Temp Oil Pres, Michelin LXT AT2 245 70 R16
7,000# Draw Tight hitch, PML EX Deep Trans Pan
Centrifuge, SunCoast, Transgo, RAM TCM, InMotion Stage 2
Wife's 99 TDI VW Beetle

Yep, Goldman Sachs has quit giving excuses as to why oil is so high. Couple days ago they as much said "we think oil should be $150 a barrel and that's where we're going to bid it to".

No more rationale as to supply and demand, weak dollar, developing markets, Chinese demand, lack of new drilling, terrorist threats, lack of inventory, etc - all of which has been shot down one by one over the past few months.

Now they're just saying they want $150/barrel so they can make money on their futures position, that that's where the new "price paradigm" should be.

And I notice their former CEO, who is also now head of the Federal Reserve, hasn't said one word concerning oil prices in months, other than to claim than inflation is only running 0.2% INCLUDING food and fuel.

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Mitchell Oates
'87 MB 300D Diamond Blue Metallic
'87 MB 300D - R.I.P. 12/08
'05 Sport CRD Stone White
Provent CCV Filter/AT2525 Muffler
Stanadyne 30 u/Cat 2 u Fuel Filters
Fumoto Drain/Fleetguard LF3487 Oil filter
V6 Airbox/Amsoil EAA Air Filter
Suncoast TC/Shift Kit/Aux Cooler
Kennedy Lift Pump/Return Fuel Cooler

LOL those were excellent!

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L.O.S.T forever!
Silver 2002 Skoda Fabia TDI, 235,000km
Former car: Jeep KJ 2003 CRD

DIESEL - saving millions of liters of petrol every day!

Oil prices rise to new record above $135 on supply concerns 5/21/08

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2015 Ram Ecodiesel/Big Horn/4x4/Quad Cab
2016 Arctic Fox 22G/Onboard 2500 LP Cummins Onan Generator/160 Watt Solar Panel

I took the road less traveled. Now I'm LOST.