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Even if we let them drill wherever they want here, what's to keep them from simply exporting it elsewhere for a higher price?

For several years, we've allowed them to sell 25% of the Alaskan pipeline output overseas. With a stroke of Junior's pen, directing that ALL of Alaska's output stays in this country, that would be an overnight increase in domestic crude supply.

Just because they end up drilling more oil wells in this country, doesn't mean that the oil will stay in this country or that we'll get any benefit from it.

Since January, when diesel prices began skyrocketing, they've been setting new records for the amount of domestic diesel fuel we've been exporting. Going by the EIA's figures, in April we exported 10% of our domestic diesel production, over 40 million gallons of that going to Mexico - where it's being sold for $2.11 a gallon.

Let's see - EIA says refiners are making 54 cents/gallon on diesel, sold 40 million gallons to Mexico, Mexican government is probably making something off the deal as well, and it's selling for $2.11 a gallon while we're paying $4.50/gallon.

No wonder several trucking companies out west are sending their rigs across the border to fill up.

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What does it take to get American's to like Hugo Chavez? News that his country has 14 cent gas!

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Threeweight wrote:
What does it take to get American's to like Hugo Chavez? News that his country has 14 cent gas!

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Ever wonder why Chavez doesn't suck up to Bush? http://www.jjraymond.com/political/2007/chavez.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhs0u1IIc3o



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Wobbly wrote:
Ever wonder why Chavez doesn't suck up to Bush?


Maybe because Chavez is a communist.

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 Post subject: Re: No Joke: filled up with dino D2 at $2.11/Gallon!
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nursecosmo wrote:
No but seriously, the roads down there are better than ever.


Drive down the Baja Peninsula sometime to do a little fishing and camping. Oncoming semi's doing 60 on coastal roads with blind corners barely wide enough for 2 passenger cars, pavement to gravel to dirt then back to pavement again, cows wandering down major roads, people with guns occasionally forcing tourists to pull over for shakedowns, corrupt cops seeking bribes in order to not tear your vehicle apart. Yah, lovely infrastructure they have down there... Gorgeous place with tremendous fishing, and most of the people are friendly and nice, but the government is a mess.


We drove to Pátzcuaro, Morelia via the Pacific Highway and returned by Highway 49. Our Powerstoke had no problems with Pemex diesel. Our camper was searched at an Army anti-narco checkpoint by very polite officers. No shakedown attempts and no threats to our safety. My impression is that the general level of driving skill is somewhat higher in Mexican drivers than Americans. The best driving we observed was while riding in taxis in the tunnels of Guanajuato.

The Pacific highway seemed rather narrow with a huge dropoff to the shoulder. This comes from adding layer after layer of asphalt instead of recycling it.
The autopistas are first rate, but the cost is very high, and the more axles, the higher the fee. One hazard to the uninitiated are the 'topes'. You had better be crawling when you go over one of these, or you may leave your rear axle on the highway. http://tinyurl.com/67n4lb


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Ever wonder why Chavez doesn't suck up to Bush?


Maybe because Chavez is a communist.


You are ill-informed on the subject: Chavez belongs to the PSUV, not the PCV.

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You are ill-informed on the subject: Chavez belongs to the PSUV, not the PCV. Wobbly


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Not good, in aus we are at $6.80 for 4 litres of diesel, thats just a little bit more than one of those US gallons and our dollar is close to the US dollar at the moment. Hmmmm, depressing.

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