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 Post subject: Please read about my roll over.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:56 am 
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Having thought about this for the past 24 hours, it has come to me how serious this was. All 4x4ing is dangerous, and just because we are out on a Sunday cruise, it only takes a second and your over.

I want to thank every one for their help. I was a mess. First I couldn't believe I rolled my rig, then the whole OMG this is serious, someone could of been hurt / killed. And people need to remember, just because the roll has stopped, there still is a great danger when flipping it back over. Mechanical failure, or just rushing, and not paying attention to details. Rushing down the hill is what got me into this mess in the 1st place.

Doug, you were great at being the calm head, and organizing people in what to do. There needs to be one chief, and you were it. Thanks. Everyone else had a role they played too. From walking back down the hill to get supplies, to fasting straps or taking pictures. And the most important part was Annette keeping me calm. I was ready to kill somebody, and I only had myself to blame.

A couple of things I learned from this are:

Don't wheel alone. And I don't mean a passenger, (but that is better then by your self) Having an extra vehicle and supplies is a must. We used 3 tow straps, 3 clivis, and a High lift. We still needed a second High lift and more straps. But fortunately for us, another jeep came along with 2 more straps and held us while we reset the High lift. Eventually, he was able to finish pulling me back over.

WEAR YOUR SEAT BELT. I wasn't. Why should I. I wasn't worried about being hit by another car, and I was only going 3mph at the most. No one around to give me a ticket. I was a rebel. I went flying. Gravity and centrifugal force sucks.

On that same note, secure all cargo. It went flying too. Mostly camera equipment in my case. But a clivis in the side of the head would suck, or a High lift that was tossed in the back seat, the night before the trip.

And use your head. I told Bill he was not going down this trail because he had his wife and kids in the car. I told everyone to back, back up the trail and turn around. Why didn't I? Big bad jeep with a new lift? Ego? Still going to think about this one awhile longer.

Every thing that Jeff wrote in the other thread is true. It's a pain in the booty, but you need to have all this stuff, and knowledge of where you are, and what your doing.

I'm not saying I'm a reborn Jeeper, but I'm going to take a second look at my equipment before I leave home, and take a good look at the trail before going down it. It was one rock, on a simple stupid road. I can't even call it a trail. But it got the best of me, and before I knew it I was over on my side. I'm still in shock over how this could of even happened.

Anyway... Things all work out great. Jeepster has some trail rash, but it can all be fixed. We were a great team out there, and I can't think of another group of people I would of wanted out there with me. A club is only as good as it's people, and this is a great club.

Thanks for reading,
Mark

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Sorry to hear about it Mark. Glad you are ok and no one else was hurt. I hear what you are saying. I have been there when someone flopped his rig and he was very lucky the removable winch that was sitting loose on his passenger floor didn't severely injure himself or worse when it hit him in the head as he went over.

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I bought that All J cargo rack as much to act as a barrier for heavy stuff as I did for the added cargo space.

These guys make some killer nets for your TJ Mark http://www.raingler.com/

You could try:

http://www.4x4groupbuy.com/store/advanced_search_result.php?osCsid=7c9326810ee59704d64d157d5a76ec42&keywords=raingler&osCsid=7c9326810ee59704d64d157d5a76ec42&x=0&y=0


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You really have a great attitude and appreciation for what happend. That's nice to see. Glad it all went as well as it did.

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bummer Mark...............
we can all learn, thanks for sharing!!!!

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Wow Mark thanks for the good words. I was only doing what came natural. So much of what you said is true. We need to most definetly do it again. I will start wrenching this weekend. If you need some help fixing yours send me a line.

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Oh buddy. We will be back on the trail. But this time, remember the movie "Risky Business" with Tom Cruse, and that hot chick. I can't remember her name, but she was hot. But anyway, and Joel was driving the Porsche back from the dealer with the hazards lights on. You remember. That will be me.

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no way... drive it like you stole it. lol

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Burchie wrote:
Oh buddy. We will be back on the trail. But this time, remember the movie "Risky Business" with Tom Cruse, and that hot chick. I can't remember her name, but she was hot. But anyway, and Joel was driving the Porsche back from the dealer with the hazards lights on. You remember. That will be me.

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Mark...you sure you didn't hit your head pal...? Tom Cruise movie refrences are a classic symptom of head trauma :oops:


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Mark:

Rebecca De Mornay was the actress name that played in Risky Business w/Tom Cruise.

:) Glad to hear everyone was alright... thanks for the "words of wisdom"

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At least he didn't reference a South Park episode :D

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Do you remember that time they killed Kenny? Or when Tom Cruise went from the zero to the hero, and got the girl all in the same night? Those were great episodes. "Cole, drive though the smoke. You can do it."

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I think you better get checked out there "Maverick"

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Burchie! Glad to hear that you're alright and that only the ego was slighlty bruised. Lots of lessons learned is the best you can expect out of a bad situation. I almost had a taste of the same on a couple of occasions, each rolling a trailer and almost losing the MJ too. Thanks to level headed friends (read LOST WEST members) that I didn't go all the way. All your advice resonates loud and clear in the empty space between my ears...

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