HELP with SKID PLATE Pleaseeeeeeeee!

shak · **Posted:** Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:08 am

ok, here's the deal.....
I have an ARB bumper on and want to get some skid plates. If i get the SKID I from ALL J would I be able to just put it on easily? and also what areas does that cover for me and what other skid should i get? (i know theres one for gas tank, but does all J make that?)
Please help

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:01 pm

welp, your bumper doesnt have anything to do with skid plates, but im glad you told us you have one!

The all-j for what i know cover the transmission. It goes from the front cross memeber all the way back to the tcase cross memeber. Covers everything. Mopar makes the front susspision skid, tcase skid and gas tank skid. I would get all of those + the all-j if you want to be fully covered.

shak · **Posted:** Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:49 pm

wow that sounds like a lot of extra weight....
im not a serious off-roader. so do you think if i only get the ALL J one, im gonna be fine? and also it covers everything? t-case,transmission and gas tank?
appreciated

Guyute1210 · **Posted:** Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:50 pm

You will want all the skids under there, even if they are MOPAR ones. The cost of breaking something under there is at least a few times more expensive than just buying the protection. You also might want to look into a set of boulder bars.

pixeldzn · **Posted:** Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:21 pm

shak wrote:

wow that sounds like a lot of extra weight....
im not a serious off-roader. so do you think if i only get the ALL J one, im gonna be fine? and also it covers everything? t-case,transmission and gas tank?
appreciated

The All-J skid only replaces the mopar tranny skid. You still need the engine, t-case and gas tank skids. There is no such thing as a full underbody skid at this point, although over here in the midwest club we are thinking of designing one.

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:40 pm

well, idk if youve looked at the price of the all j, but its like $300. its far better than the mopar tranny skid, but i would just go with that. Get the mopar suspension, tranny, tcase and gas tank. They will cost around $300 and would weigh alittle over 100 extra lbs total. All ive got so far is the suspension skid, and the tranny is coming this christmas. I dont think ill ever get the gas tank b/c i never do any rock crawling and do not believe ill ever need it. Buy later on down the road when some more money comes ill get the tcase. its not as low as the tranny pan, buts its there.

Guyute1210 · **Posted:** Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:53 pm

Jeepjeepster wrote:

I dont think ill ever get the gas tank b/c i never do any rock crawling and do not believe ill ever need it. Buy later on down the road when some more money comes ill get the tcase. its not as low as the tranny pan, buts its there.

I've heard that one before...those plastic gas tanks can be cut/punctured pretty easy...for as cheap as the MOPAR ones are, IMO it would be just plain stupid to not have something under there if you ever go off of pavement.

pixeldzn · **Posted:** Thu Dec 08, 2005 8:12 pm

Jeepjeepster wrote:

well, idk if youve looked at the price of the all j, but its like $300. its far better than the mopar tranny skid, but i would just go with that. Get the mopar suspension, tranny, tcase and gas tank. They will cost around $300 and would weigh alittle over 100 extra lbs total. All ive got so far is the suspension skid, and the tranny is coming this christmas. I dont think ill ever get the gas tank b/c i never do any rock crawling and do not believe ill ever need it. Buy later on down the road when some more money comes ill get the tcase. its not as low as the tranny pan, buts its there.

The skids weigh about 80 lbs all together. I know because I bought them all at once and thats what the package weighed. If you order them all from jparts, you get free shipping because it will be over $200. The total for all 4 shipped was $222.70, a bargain for the protection they offer. When you trash em, just upgrade to the All-J super skid and maybe a skid row engine skid and a kilby gas tank skid and you won't feel too bad about the money spent.

I also HATE the comment that the gas tank skid is unneccesary. To me, that one is as important as any of the others. A plastic gas tank can be punctured easily on the trail, probably moreso by hidden stumps and rocks on a dirt trail/creek than on a rock trail. Just my 2¢.

Tokyojoe · **Posted:** Thu Dec 08, 2005 8:29 pm

You will hit your gas tank even if you just do dirt, gravel, stump.....and you never know what is in mud and water.

Watch that video of the KJ that keeps popping up on this forum and you will see that it doesn't take rocks to break anything underneath.

KJ04 · **Posted:** Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:12 pm

When you go wheeling you never know what you might run up against, over, or into for that matter, so be prepared for the worst. The cost of the skids and rockbars will pay for themselves many times over in the long run.
I have full armour, and my last outing still cost me nearly $1,000 in towing and parts.

If you're going to play.... sooner or later, you're going to pay!

raceinfan · **Posted:** Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:22 pm

The All j Super Skid II will cover the engine & tranny I HAVE IT

works awesome it's for the 04's (don't know your year) might fit earlier though as for the other skids I got Mopar ones that super skid is heavy :shock:

you will need a buddy or a floor jack to hold it up while ya align it,definitly worth the money

MrCRD · **Posted:** Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:03 pm

Skid row has a full line for us KJ'rs as well. What the heck does that front skid do? I can see using it for sliding across rocks but thats about it. Is there something in that spot. By the way I think I would purchase a Diff guard as one of my first pieces. Can we put any D30 diff guard on or do we have to have a "Special" one?

2 cents

Thanks
Chris

jpzkj · **Posted:** Fri Dec 09, 2005 1:56 am

MrCRD wrote:

Skid row has a full line for us KJ'rs as well. What the heck does that front skid do? I can see using it for sliding across rocks but thats about it. Is there something in that spot. By the way I think I would purchase a Diff guard as one of my first pieces. Can we put any D30 diff guard on or do we have to have a "Special" one?

2 cents

Thanks
Chris

I use the front skid all the time (engine skid from jeep).

The D30 diff gaurd is not necessary since it's tucked way up (under the engine skid)

If your just going to do some light offroading you'll do fine with the Mopar fuel tank skid and Transfer case skid.

Speaking of adding wieght....If your going to do it...best that its as low as possible. And the bottom of your KJ is about as low as you can get.

The Fuel tank can take some scrapes w/out the skidplate but you'll be better off with the stock one. Kilby Enterprises makes one that is darn near bullet proof if you want to go that way.

You may find it helpful to get under your jeep and look at these areas so you'll understand what is exposed and where it's at. The Rear differential gaurd is a very important piece of armor (I use mine more than most :oops:

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AdamIsAdam · **Posted:** Sun Dec 11, 2005 12:31 pm

To clarify, since some posters seemed confused:

from front to rear:
Engine/Suspension Skid: stock is pretty tuff. Skid Row makes a beefier one. I bent my stock one and replaced it with another stock one for $25. If I bend it again, I'll upgrade.

Tranny skid: Only started from MOPAR for 2005. The All J and now, the second generation Skid Row, are both excellent. Very beefy. My first one was a skid row 1st generation and I bent it all the time, a lot. It gets a big workout because it's low and towards the center of the vehicle (which means it touches down when going over things like hills and rocks).

Transfer Case skid: stock is ok. Kinda thin. Mine is currently bent up but still not touching the t-case. It works.

Diff Guard: You think you don't need it? Ever put it in Reverse on the trail? Ever? If yes, then you need it. Period. That cover is thin. Rocks are thick. Gears are exensive. Even a cheap guard is worth it. I have the Four-X for $69. Good piece of mind.

Gas Tank skid: stock is ok. Exposed on the corners. It's thin and very tight against the tank. It will touch down a lot. Plastic tanks don't like rocks and stumps. And a hole in your tank can end your day fast. I've also heard that replacing those tanks is big $$. Mine is currently bent up against the tank. I'm debating relacing it with a Kilby or just hammering it out. I was backing up through muddy rocky area to go back and pull a Rubicon Unlimited out (hehehe). I just made it through this mud pit forward, but kept getting stuck in reverse on big rocks. I really wanted to be gthe one to pull out the Rubi, so I kept trying. Eventually, I gave up. Later, I saw the damage to the skid. It could have been bad!

lastly, I think the trailer hitch may help on steep climbs to keep the plastic bumper from getting ripped off. Maybe. Dunno.

And of course, BoulderBars. I destroyed a set of RRO Step Rails. They lasted about 2 years, but as I started wheeling harder, they let go. The boulderbars are beefier and mount to the frame in stronger , thicker places.

There, my full write up for ya. Enjoy. Consider it my holiday gift to you. :lol:

Tokyojoe · **Posted:** Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:57 pm

raceinfan wrote:

The All j Super Skid II will cover the engine & tranny I HAVE IT

works awesome it's for the 04's (don't know your year) might fit earlier though as for the other skids I got Mopar ones that super skid is heavy :shock:

you will need a buddy or a floor jack to hold it up while ya align it,definitly worth the money

It only covers the Tranny. I have it also. You still need the Front skid.

raceinfan · **Posted:** Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:49 pm

I'm 99% possitive it also covers the engine there's a hole cut to drain the oil up front :?:

I also have the very front skid for the diff & on ALL J's website it states engine & tranny skid I believe

for that particular one

AdamIsAdam · **Posted:** Sun Dec 11, 2005 8:43 pm

raceinfan wrote:

I'm 99% possitive it also covers the engine there's a hole cut to drain the oil up front :?:

I also have the very front skid for the diff & on ALL J's website it states engine & tranny skid I believe

for that particular one

I know my post was long, but if you read it, you'll have the answers to all these questions.

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:05 am

I didnt say the gas tank skid was unneccesary. I just said i didnt think i needed it with the light off roading i do. No rocks. I go on these trails all the time and i know where the stuff is at. For me, i dont think i need it. If i had the money to spend on it right now, heck sure, id have them all. Im getting what i can right now and the engine and tranny is all ive got.

AdamIsAdam · **Posted:** Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:20 am

Jeepjeepster wrote:

I didnt say the gas tank skid was unneccesary. I just said i didnt think i needed it with the light off roading i do. No rocks. I go on these trails all the time and i know where the stuff is at. For me, i dont think i need it. If i had the money to spend on it right now, heck sure, id have them all. Im getting what i can right now and the engine and tranny is all ive got.

We hear ya. You gotta do what you can do. Just so you understand, what you have is not called the ENGINE/TRANNY skid. It's the Engine/Suspension skid. The tranny skid is a separate item. (I don't wanna see you buying a part you already have or something p;-))

MrCRD · **Posted:** Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:20 am

Thanks Adam for the post of all the pieces. I have a question concerning the D30. Ok I actually got out and started eyeballing things under my KJ and you are right, that D30 is cocooned up there. After reading all the stuff about how an aluminum diff will not hold up what do you think about putting a cover on it to increase the strength of it. I know PoisonSpyder is coming out with a D30 cover this spring that is a full front plate replacement and not that guard style. I would think that would add a lot of strength to it. By the way I'm not sure what it looks like under you 3.7 litre machines but the CRD's oil filter looks like a huge liability under my Jeep. Could they make it hang any lower.

Thanks
Chris.

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