I am not really needing the extra power and mpgs that would come from gears. The cost of parts alone won't be recouped until a year and a half later. It is going to be over $1,000 for gears alone including install. The lockers are another $800. The gears won't help me off road as much as lockers will and I am more worried about that. My jeep does fine on the road right now without the gears. The main reason I wanted to do gears was to lessen the burden of my engine and tranny.

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except i'm not concerned about my engine and tranny with a 6 speed.. besides that those are my thoughts exactly. plus with a front locker (or LSD) the chances of snapping your front diff. is decreased drastically.

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2006 Renegade. Completely stock.

You'd be amazed about how much power/mpg's you lost if you did gears.More so offroad when your crawl ratio is greatly increased from what you have now.

Auto or manual tranny,it doesn't matter you are still putting added stress on the tranny and will shorten the life of it.

That is the only reason I want the gears. Stop the premature wear. I know I lost power but it doesn't bug me. I am sure I'd love the power gain after I replaced the gears though.

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So the parts guys called me today. The first thing out of his mouth was, "You sure you want to spend that much on that Jeep?" - He then said the price he got from his guy was $465.00 This was the best he could do since neither he or his vendor sell PowerTrax.

Well, I tried. I guess I'll check Rocky-Road to see if they have one in stock, unless someone knows a place that can beat their price of $380. ?

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Illegitima Non carborundom!

call around and try to get a price match somewhere...ANYWHERE but Rocky Road.

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MUDD'S MOTORSPORT'S We do IFS lift installs ,
03 OVERLAND EDITION /Kilby-Skidrow-Mopar-4XGuard skids/ 2.5 inch TOTAL CONTROL JBA coilovers -JBA Arms/MOABS-31 FALKEN WILDPEAK AT3W / 4.10's etc, 04 Kilimanjaro Edition loaded, plus 05 KJ limited

Care to elaborate?

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Illegitima Non carborundom!

Rocky Road, RRO they dont have the best customer service and if you look in the for sale thread there is a member sell some rock rails that he bought there b/c they sent him the wrong ones

Troy whats your average MPG?

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1980 Jeep CJ7 Buggy
SOA, D44/ FF14B, SBC 350, SM465, NP205, 108" WB, 37" MTs

http://www.dpgoffroad.com/
http://www.ucora.org/
http://www.christianoffroad.com/
http://jeepinbyal.com/

It's been about 13mpg's in town driving for the last couple of weeks,real good since I was used to 10mpg's with my 5500lbs beast.Last time I was on the highway I averaged just over 20mpg's.When I had 3.73's,lifted with 265/75's and virtually no armor I was getting 8mpg's in town and 14mpg's on the highway.

over the years just been a lot of people order from them and not get what they wanted or never got it and all the while they said they had it in stock. One guy has waited about a year or more now for a refund.
So just very poor customer service.
I would want to make sure that where I was ordering from that if there was a problem then they would be there to help you out.

thats all

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MUDD'S MOTORSPORT'S We do IFS lift installs ,
03 OVERLAND EDITION /Kilby-Skidrow-Mopar-4XGuard skids/ 2.5 inch TOTAL CONTROL JBA coilovers -JBA Arms/MOABS-31 FALKEN WILDPEAK AT3W / 4.10's etc, 04 Kilimanjaro Edition loaded, plus 05 KJ limited

Good to know. Thanks.

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Illegitima Non carborundom!

So my buddy and his wife just left our house after a nice dinner and he said he'd be glad to hook me up and do my gears and lockers. Save me over $500!
Looks like as of now, I am doing lockers and gears!

Stinking Reider Racing won't have the gears in for a month at least. Anyone know of another place that will price match and sells gears?

Gotta order the ptrax and the DTT tomorrow I guess.

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I just read somewhere that the DTT will act like an open diff if you lift a wheel. Is this correct? That bites if it is. What about the powertrax?

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awesome congrats on the good deal! I dont think thats right about the DTT Ive had my front passenger wheel in the air and my drivers side was still going

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1980 Jeep CJ7 Buggy
SOA, D44/ FF14B, SBC 350, SM465, NP205, 108" WB, 37" MTs

http://www.dpgoffroad.com/
http://www.ucora.org/
http://www.christianoffroad.com/
http://jeepinbyal.com/

you can maybe get the D30A here:
http://www.trailquest.com/axles/KJ_Model30.shtml
thats what they cost from Reider also

and for the rear just search around they arent too hard to find you should be able to find some for $150 and dont forget the overhaul kits, did Reider have them in stock?

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1980 Jeep CJ7 Buggy
SOA, D44/ FF14B, SBC 350, SM465, NP205, 108" WB, 37" MTs

http://www.dpgoffroad.com/
http://www.ucora.org/
http://www.christianoffroad.com/
http://jeepinbyal.com/

sometimes you will have to lightly have the brakes on ( not all the time just enough to lock it up and then when its locked good to go) to lock it up completely. Depends on where you are etc. but it works without any real problems. After a while you just do it automatically when you start up over some rocks/mud / whatever

Tom

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MUDD'S MOTORSPORT'S We do IFS lift installs ,
03 OVERLAND EDITION /Kilby-Skidrow-Mopar-4XGuard skids/ 2.5 inch TOTAL CONTROL JBA coilovers -JBA Arms/MOABS-31 FALKEN WILDPEAK AT3W / 4.10's etc, 04 Kilimanjaro Edition loaded, plus 05 KJ limited

here is 8.25" 4.10 ring and pinion with master install for $220
http://www.ronsmachiningservice.net/ser ... .25/Detail

then $216 from trailquest for the D30a gears and the overhaul, which would be about $500 for the gears and installs

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1980 Jeep CJ7 Buggy
SOA, D44/ FF14B, SBC 350, SM465, NP205, 108" WB, 37" MTs

http://www.dpgoffroad.com/
http://www.ucora.org/
http://www.christianoffroad.com/
http://jeepinbyal.com/

Not a real issue.I always applied the brakes just a tad to make it lock up,this also kept me speed down to really lesson the chance of blowing my front diff.Plus with the brakes on a little bit if the DTT suddenly let the one wheel that was in the air spin freely,never happened though to me,the brakes would be applied already preventing the front diff from blowing apart.

Toss in the powertrax and wait for the rubicrawler xfer case option -- seems to me the xfer case is the best way to "change" the rear and front gear ratios. May be a while b4 it gets into production tho.

Well, I think I'd rather get the gears than the Rubicrawler just because I don't want to hold my breath for it to come out. Who knows when that will be. Just like the Aussie...

Good to hear about the DTT. Sounds like it should work great.

Didn't have a single free second today. Went to the air races, had friends in from Maine and then a b day bash to go to. No time for jeep stuff. Will try to get some stuff ordered Monday but probably Tuesday.

I see that 4wd.com does price matching and they have free shipping, and it appears they carry the one of the lockers, now i just need to see about the other one. I can't find many DTT for the D30a online, most are all for the D30. The cheapest I have found is here: http://www.streetsideauto.com/products2 ... er=912A314

4wheelparts.com doesn't show they cary the part number 912A314...

Side note: Who would have guessed there'd be so many votes for the bumper? Pretty even voting across the board too.

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My Jeep Build ----> Big Black