I think that gladiator might be a little to long to do any serious trails, don't get me wrong but, I like it, but it just seems too big to be a Jeep (i think the same thing about Commanders). I thought that was part of what made a Jeep, a small manueverable 4x4 capable of almost any terrain.

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'02 KJ Sport V6 4x4
3/8" Clevis lift
Rusty's 2.5 lift
255/70/R16 Fleet Farm All Terrain (yes they work)
Class 3 hitch
Hellas
Police Scanner/CB radio
LOST #: JH061986

Here's a new photo of the 4 door Wrangler (or whatever it's called).
http://www.mph-online.com/web/spyphotos/0030

From what they show it looks pretty good. Kinda like a newer Cherokee.


There's another company besides AEV who makes a kit to turn a Wrangler into a pickup. The dimensions are about the same as the Brute. The kit is in the 10k range as I recall. If I remember who it is I'll post a link.

Here it is:
http://www.roadarmor.com/ra3/summitsut.html

I don't like the fact that it doesn't have extra cab space. I owned an `86 Toyota pickup (non xt Cab). I loved my pickup but seriously wished I had the exra cab space.

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2004 Renegade Light Khaki - 4" JBA Lift - Rock Lizard Products: Komodo Dragon Rear Bumper, Prototype Winch-mount Front Bumper, Super Skink Sliders - All J's Super Tranny Skid II - 31" Firestone Destination AT's on Moab wheels - Cobra 75W CB w/ stock Antenna mod

[b]Retired, US Military

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this would be interesting

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Red 2002 sport
245-70-16 General Grabber AT2's
One day maybe: OME HD coils and Ranchos on all corners

Anyone notice the new wrangler has a plastic bumper system like the KJ? That's one feature I DON'T like, as well as the horizontal muffler.

Be that as it may, I will probably be buying one as my wife is jonesing to get back into a wrangler and I don't really want to own any 2-door vehicles anymore in my life unless it's a mid-life crisis sport's car.

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2008 Unlimited Rubicon - 3.5" AEV/Nth lift - 35" MT/R with Kevlar - AEV Wheels - York OBA
2008 Patriot - Fuel Saver

:vomit:

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stuff
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I would have to agree that the look of liberty is better the way it is, but if anyone was ever curious to what a truck version might look like, there ya go.

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Red 2002 sport
245-70-16 General Grabber AT2's
One day maybe: OME HD coils and Ranchos on all corners

Now THAT is a good spy photo! Thanks for posting that - I've been following the wrangler redesign for over a year trying to figure out what it's going to be like.

I really like it. Just need to wait a couple years once it comes out so I can get a decently priced used CRD.

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