just give you more of an idea of what i am pullin here are some pics - - -


here is one of the things i pull behind the CRD. That is my buddy in the jeep. I was behind the camera.



I don't have any pics of it behind the CRD but i also pull a Honda Foreman 450 behind it on a 16 ft. trailer.

Guy at my work drives a 2000 grand, and he redlines to get it out of first. He was told it was a solenoid in the transmission that needed to be replaced.

Of course he's an idiot and has left it like that because it would cost him like 300 bucks...and he's replaced a blown engine since. The shifting is still a problem....

It either starts in 2nd, which he says is fine, or it won't go into second and he has to rev the crap out of it to get it straight to third.

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That's a mighty find looking CRD you have there! Looks almost like mine.

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Piggytail connector for EVIC:

Get a lead from a floppy drive power connector from an old PC power supply. It'll work but it won't be pretty (but you don't have to see it when it's mounted so who cares? )

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kntrygurl, you know your vehicle better than anyone else. 9 out of 10 times, when I detect something amiss in a vehicle I own, time proves me to be right about it. I'm glad you are sticking to your guns to see this through.

Plus, what you are describing with it sticking in gear is definitely not normal...

- Chris

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Well, if we are being photo hams... Here is my tractor with the big load:

On the fuzzy logic thing,could it be that after service some meatball tech took iy for a ride "to see what it had",standing on it thr whole way,and the computer thinks thats how YOU want it to shift.I only ask because some mopar rigs Learn you driving habits,and I think mine has done this on occasion after battery disconnected.No cost try, disconnect the battery,hook it back up and drive EASY to relearn Your tendancies.Remember that the logic in these will not throw a code..........good luck..........H

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A very good thought These trannys adapt to changes and remember them. After putting in fresh fluid things could be different enough to cause problems.
This was brought up in a SunCoast transmission rebuild a week or so ago.

Take it into your dealer and ask them to try a "quick relearn"

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How long do i need to leave the battery undone to reset the computer or is this something i need to do at a dealer?

thank you so much for all your help with this. it is bout to drive me crazy.....oh and just a side note - fuel mileage has dropped to about 325 to a tank!!!! I was gettin anywhere from 425 to 410!

I would start by disconnecting the battery for 10 to 15 minutes,and then hook it back up,go for a drive the way you drive all the time (not towing yet),if that works,it should tow the same as it used to.If it doesn't work I would bring it in for a re-learn........good luck..H

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The variety of ATF used should not have any effect at all on where the shift points are occuring. That is controled electronically by the TCM and based on TPS, transmission temp, line pressure, etc.

Two thoughts occur to me. One: a filter was incorectly installed causing a restriction in flow through the tranny and two: What you are describing also sounds like a limp mode, which will prevent shifting until the RPMs get way up and you let off of the accelerator a little. Do you have a CEL? Any problem with a stuck shift solenoid, severely slipping clutches or incorrect line pressure should also cause a CEL. Check it out with a scanner and let us know what the codes are.

Also changing the ATF fluid will not make the TCM have to relearn any parameters.

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I read through this whole thread and didn't see it written that you verified the trans fluid level on the dipstick. Sorry if I missed it or if it's a stupid suggestion, but it sounds like your trans is low on fluid. The capacity in the dealer's cheat sheet is incorrect! Which many people found out after F37. Warm it up and check it in park on level ground.

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If that is the cause and we all forgot to suggest it until now... DOH! Good point CATCRD. good catch.

Yes i checked the fluid level and it is just a hair under the hot line. Is that enuff to get it to shift eratic like it is?

I also disconnected the battery for like a couple hours while i was shoppin with my husband (we drove his truck) and when we go t back home connected it back and then took it for a drive the way i drive it and it is shifting SOOO much better. It still wants to red line if i floor it, but thats to be expected.

nursecosmo-
no i do not have any CEL's on. I have a scanner and i had fuel problems recently that threw them on. That is the only codes that have been thrown. And just to clarify this - the fuel problems was after the tranny problems and i have already fixed it.

When you say that you fixed the fuel problem, What did you do? I don't see a lift pump mentioned in your sig. Sometimes a limp caused by air in the fuel or a clogged filter will not set a CEL for some reason.

There is also a TSB relating to the early 05s which addressed a similar problem http://www.wjjeeps.com/tsb/tsb_wj_0801605.pdf

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There are also many Jeep connectors you can source from other applications that will plug directly into the Jeep EVIC.

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Its not an issue but i am gonna tell you what it did - excelerated onto the highway and lost all power. Pulled over, killed the jeep - ran the codes. i don't remember what the numbers was but it was large fuel leake detected. Called the mechanic at the dealer (he knows me REALLY good by now) and told him - he said to leave it and come get it with a trailer. So i called a friend to come get me then went home and waited on my dad to get off work so we could go get it. By this time i done searched all over the forumn and came up with the conclusion that it was a clogged fuel filter not air in the lines or a injecter leaking. When he got home we went to get it and checked the oil to make sure it was only oil in there. Then cranked it up and drove it on home (i had read on here that it was most likely put into limp mode and the dealer also said this) drove fine back to the house. Changed the fuel filter the next day when i FINALLY tracked one down and VOILA - fixed.

lol.....i know thats some story but i'm not good at decribing things.

like what? i am at a total loss here!

If your willing to pay $20 the simplest one is to buy a steering wheel harness for a KJ with radio controls. There are some others that are the exact same, but I cannot recall them right now, though they should be available in search.

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glad to see that disconnecting battery worked.Just remember that most likely the dealer you trusted is the one responsible for "teaching" your crd to drive that way,just keep that under your hat when you call them again,if you call them maybe let them know they have a mario andretti in there stable that may cost them money down the road...................H

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