Food for thought.

Tokyojoe · **Posted:** Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:45 pm

Well, to produce an egg, the chicken had to *cough* do it *cough* first.

Murphyman · **Posted:** Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:46 pm

johnb wrote:

Murphyman wrote:

A straw doesn't have a hole. It's just a wrapped up square. The square was perfectly fine before it was rolled up, and nothing was altered, so why is there a hole now? :lol:

Fail.

A square is two dimensional. And when unrolled, a straw is not a cube.

A straw is a rolled three dimensional rectangle. The rolling creates a tube, which has a single hole through what would otherwise be a cylinder.

It's not a hole. A hole is an opening, but the straw was originally made from a "three dimensional rectangle", and since you are not altering it, there is no hole or opening. This is somewhat related to how they make them, because you are only manipulating the SHAPE of the plastic, not poking an opening through.

These opinionated arguements are fun.

InCommando · **Posted:** Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:52 pm

Budke wrote:

theres a chicken in the egg. so they came at the same time.

That never happens and you know it! :lol:

omGoddard · **Posted:** Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:03 pm

So if said drinking straw was suddenly a 2 mile buried pipe w/ an opening on each end, is it one or two holes?

If you drove to each end you'd want to say it was a separate hole.

Murphyman · **Posted:** Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:07 pm

I beleive pipes are made differently. Nevertheless, i enjoy straws the same. But the chicken came first, hands down, DONE!

Budke · **Posted:** Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:45 pm

Chuck Norris came first.... Thats all that matters.

cluelessklewer · **Posted:** Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:15 am

Budke wrote:

Chuck Norris came first.... Thats all that matters.

x2

johnb · **Posted:** Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:42 am

Murphyman wrote:

johnb wrote:

Murphyman wrote:

A straw doesn't have a hole. It's just a wrapped up square. The square was perfectly fine before it was rolled up, and nothing was altered, so why is there a hole now? :lol:

Fail.

A square is two dimensional. And when unrolled, a straw is not a cube.

A straw is a rolled three dimensional rectangle. The rolling creates a tube, which has a single hole through what would otherwise be a cylinder.

It's not a hole. A hole is an opening, but the straw was originally made from a "three dimensional rectangle", and since you are not altering it, there is no hole or opening. This is somewhat related to how they make them, because you are only manipulating the SHAPE of the plastic, not poking an opening through.

These opinionated arguements are fun.

when you roll the three dimensional rectangle to the point that one edge meets the other, a new shape is created that has a path through it - call that path whatever you like... hole works for me.

Murphyman · **Posted:** Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:41 pm

johnb wrote:

Murphyman wrote:

johnb wrote:

Murphyman wrote:

A straw doesn't have a hole. It's just a wrapped up square. The square was perfectly fine before it was rolled up, and nothing was altered, so why is there a hole now? :lol:

Fail.

A square is two dimensional. And when unrolled, a straw is not a cube.

A straw is a rolled three dimensional rectangle. The rolling creates a tube, which has a single hole through what would otherwise be a cylinder.

It's not a hole. A hole is an opening, but the straw was originally made from a "three dimensional rectangle", and since you are not altering it, there is no hole or opening. This is somewhat related to how they make them, because you are only manipulating the SHAPE of the plastic, not poking an opening through.

These opinionated arguements are fun.

when you roll the three dimensional rectangle to the point that one edge meets the other, a new shape is created that has a path through it - call that path whatever you like... hole works for me.

That's what I was trying to get to. But yeah, it's all a matter of opinion. I call it a hole but it's fun to argue against that.

Diggerfreek · **Posted:** Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:05 pm

WOW

we must all be really board to discuss what a hole really is :lol:

Tokyojoe · **Posted:** Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:49 pm

A hole. What is it? It is what makes Bob, the Enzyte guy, smile.

tan's2002kjlimited · **Posted:** Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:01 pm

Murphyman wrote:

I beleive pipes are made differently. Nevertheless, i enjoy straws the same. But the chicken came first, hands down, DONE!

The reptiles, amphibians, and fish came before birds evolved.

Reptiles, amphibians, and fish hatch from eggs.
Hence, the egg came before the chicken.

Murphyman · **Posted:** Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:56 pm

tan's2002kjlimited wrote:

Murphyman wrote:

I beleive pipes are made differently. Nevertheless, i enjoy straws the same. But the chicken came first, hands down, DONE!

The reptiles, amphibians, and fish came before birds evolved.

Reptiles, amphibians, and fish hatch from eggs.
Hence, the egg came before the chicken.

Well, their (reptiles, amphibians, and fish) eggs came before the chicken. :lol:

My theory is that a chicken was born, or evolved, and then it begun laying eggs. Maybe a weird evolutionary type of thing, where it converted from a "mammal" to an egg layer. Way back in the day, the chicken could have been suffering being a mammal. And then BAM! Years later, it's now laying eggs like the reptiles which has been a proven successful method for millions of years.

daspes · **Posted:** Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:55 am

Tokyojoe wrote:

A hole. What is it? It is what makes Bob, the Enzyte guy, smile.

Natch!

Diggerfreek · **Posted:** Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:02 pm

Tokyojoe wrote:

A hole. What is it? It is what makes Bob, the Enzyte guy, smile.

Food for thought.

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