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maybe this will ring back work back to the wherehouse i work for .... i work for a export wherehouse for GM that ships parts to china for the Cadillac CTS, venezuela Silverado. we were shipping the hummer H3 to south africa.
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They only have the rights to the H2/H3 and that's it.They can not produce or claim the H1's due to goverment contracts with Am General which still is the sole ownership of the H1 name and design.
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They only have the rights to the H2/H3 and that's it.They can not produce or claim the H1's due to goverment contracts with Am General which still is the sole ownership of the H1 name and design.


They got "the wong one" grasshopper.........

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tjkj2002 wrote:
They only have the rights to the H2/H3 and that's it.They can not produce or claim the H1's due to goverment contracts with Am General which still is the sole ownership of the H1 name and design.


Doesn't Osh Kosh build them for DOD? Osh Kosh just won the next bid on the FMTV & LMTV and took it away from S&S/BAE.

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They only have the rights to the H2/H3 and that's it.They can not produce or claim the H1's due to goverment contracts with Am General which still is the sole ownership of the H1 name and design.


Doesn't Osh Kosh build them for DOD? Osh Kosh just won the next bid on the FMTV & LMTV and took it away from S&S/BAE.

I thought Oshkosh made bib over-all's?

I also read although the Hummer / GM brand is now under new ownership, the corp HQ will remain in Detroit, Michigan. USA.

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They only have the rights to the H2/H3 and that's it.They can not produce or claim the H1's due to goverment contracts with Am General which still is the sole ownership of the H1 name and design.


Doesn't Osh Kosh build them for DOD? Osh Kosh just won the next bid on the FMTV & LMTV and took it away from S&S/BAE.
Nope Am General has always built the HMMWV for the military.Glad to see S&S not making the FMTV/LMTV's anymore,they sucked big time.
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They only have the rights to the H2/H3 and that's it.They can not produce or claim the H1's due to government contracts with Am General which still is the sole ownership of the H1 name and design.


Doesn't Osh Kosh build them for DOD? Osh Kosh just won the next bid on the FMTV & LMTV and took it away from S&S/BAE.
Nope Am General has always built the HMMWV for the military.Glad to see S&S not making the FMTV/LMTV's anymore,they sucked big time.


Yeah. I worked at S&S down near Houston for a while in the design group. After I left, they sold the Tactical Vehicles division to Armor Holdings, who then sold it to BAE. Losing quality with each step. Not that there was great quality to begin with as you mentioned. Last I heard, BAE literally has a couple thousand partially complete FMTV ans LMTV's parked in the fields surrounding the plant. One may be missing an air cleaner assembly. The next missing something else, the next missing something else.

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quote: I can't resist mentioning this commercial I heard last night. I just remember the quote "80% of all Toyotas ever built are still on the road.". My immediate thought was "The rest of them made it home.".


That statistic could actually be misleading. I calculated over a 50 year period if car production increased 18% per year and the average life expectancy of a car is only 10 years then you would have 81% of all cars ever made still on the road after 50 years. Most cars last 10 years so that statistic is misleading.

Now if car production was only a 10 percent increase per year then the car would need to have a life expectancy of 15 years to achieve 77% of cars still on the road.

It all depends on the numbers used.

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quote: I can't resist mentioning this commercial I heard last night. I just remember the quote "80% of all Toyotas ever built are still on the road.". My immediate thought was "The rest of them made it home.".


That statistic could actually be misleading. I calculated over a 50 year period if car production increased 18% per year and the average life expectancy of a car is only 10 years then you would have 81% of all cars ever made still on the road after 50 years. Most cars last 10 years so that statistic is misleading.

Now if car production was only a 10 percent increase per year then the car would need to have a life expectancy of 15 years to achieve 77% of cars still on the road.

It all depends on the numbers used.
Your not getting the joke,basically stating that "still on the road" means they are broke down on the road and can not make it home.


Oh I got your joke. I wasn't talking about what you said but I was just making the point about what the commercial said that 80% of toyotas are still on the road (meaning they are still being used) can be misleading because it makes it seem like toyotas don't break down because there are so many still on the road when in fact that may be close to the average for cars in general. It would mean more if they stated how many of the other brands are still on the road also. Then we could get a true comparison.

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icarl wrote:
tjkj2002 wrote:
quote: I can't resist mentioning this commercial I heard last night. I just remember the quote "80% of all Toyotas ever built are still on the road.". My immediate thought was "The rest of them made it home.".


That statistic could actually be misleading. I calculated over a 50 year period if car production increased 18% per year and the average life expectancy of a car is only 10 years then you would have 81% of all cars ever made still on the road after 50 years. Most cars last 10 years so that statistic is misleading.

Now if car production was only a 10 percent increase per year then the car would need to have a life expectancy of 15 years to achieve 77% of cars still on the road.

It all depends on the numbers used.
Your not getting the joke,basically stating that "still on the road" means they are broke down on the road and can not make it home.
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