crd lift

mikey1273 · **Posted:** Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:13 pm

I have been thinking about getting lifted for some time but figured it was way off. Found a deal at a local shop the say they do many of these rough country 3 inch lifts for 360 plus 225 for labor to have it installed.

The details he gave me said it includes bullet aluminum shock extensoins rear coil springs and rear shocks.

Is this a good lift and a good price? Or should I ask for more details and look at other lifts?

UFO · **Posted:** Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:53 pm

Make sure they know it's for a CRD, different than regular gasser.

linewarbr · **Posted:** Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:54 pm

Common KJ lifts don't work for CRD's because of the weight of the diesel engine compared to the gasser. I'm saving up for a Frankenlift II Premium before I mess with it. I'd rather spend the money and do it right. If you ask the guy if it works on the diesel and he goes, "Huh? They made a Jeep with a diesel?" I would wait.

RTStabler51 · **Posted:** Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:55 pm

I'm having the OME stuff installed as we speak...

LibertyCRD · **Posted:** Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:08 pm

If it's a spacer lift, then yes it does not matter if it's a CRD or not as you will be reusing your OEM springs.

Remember, the CRD weighs 200-300 lbs. more TOTAL than a gas KJ...and it's not all in the engine. The transmission is a little heavier so the extra weight is distributed fairly evenly throughout the Jeep. The diesel engine is NOT that much heavier at all than a gas V6, contrary to popular belief.

ATXKJ · **Posted:** Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:32 pm

if it's a 3" spacer - it'll probably kill the driver side CV boot when they do the install
That's why All-J's stopped using the extra spacer on the 'CRD Frankenlift'

standard OME lift - with OME790's - works great - better ride and lift.

KJ 119 · **Posted:** Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:36 pm

Anything that reuses the old springs and struts is crap.
Trust me,there is a world of difference.You might not know it but your old stuff is worn down,and you'll never know it if you spacer lift.

LibertyCRD · **Posted:** Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:40 pm

KJ 119 wrote:

Anything that reuses the old springs and struts is crap.
Trust me,there is a world of difference.You might not know it but your old stuff is worn down,and you'll never know it if you spacer lift.

Some of the specs I've seen on aftermarket springs show that they are actually a lower spring rate than the factory stuff. Therefore, the factory springs would sag less and take longer to get to that point. I have run spacer lifts on multiple Jeeps and have been extremely happy with all of them and I can follow my buddies with full aftermarket suspensions anywhere I want. Not to mention the hundreds of dollars I have saved.

KJ 119 · **Posted:** Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:50 pm

LibertyCRD wrote:

KJ 119 wrote:

Anything that reuses the old springs and struts is crap.
Trust me,there is a world of difference.You might not know it but your old stuff is worn down,and you'll never know it if you spacer lift.

Some of the specs I've seen on aftermarket springs show that they are actually a lower spring rate than the factory stuff. Therefore, the factory springs would sag less and take longer to get to that point. I have run spacer lifts on multiple Jeeps and have been extremely happy with all of them and I can follow my buddies with full aftermarket suspensions anywhere I want. Not to mention the hundreds of dollars I have saved.

You'll never know what you're missing. :goink:

ATXKJ · **Posted:** Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:54 pm

Stock was 410lbs/inch
OME790's 500 lbs/inch

(it took OME a couple of years to figure out they had to make them stiffer)

mikey1273 · **Posted:** Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:33 pm

That was the what the guy said was the most popular lift for the KJ that they do...... when he looked at mine he knew what the CRD was cus he said "we haven't had a diesel Liberty in the shop yet" He wanted to look under the hood and all. I dectected some diesel envy too. THis is a local shop that specializes in Jeeps. I don't know what this lift is other than Rough Country and what I was told it includes, the fact that front springs and struts were not in the list has me thinking its a spacer lift also.... atleast the front is from what I can tell.

The fact that they are finular with all models of Jeeps is good but they don't seem to have experince with the CRD. So thats why I asked here.. I would like to think I can install my own lift but I don't have a garage or more than tools to do basic maintance. My Liberty is a DD also so it needs to be done in a day or two... that means when I do it I would need to get experianced help or pay to have it done.

what about the OME spring lift that is on the same page as the Frankenlift http://www.boulderbars.com/frankenlift_crd.htm how much lift is that going to get me? Oh and I also have a set of Boiler's strut spacers I got in the Lost santa I will be able to use.... Thanks Boiler

mikey1273 · **Posted:** Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:34 pm

I beleive this is the lift they are selling.

http://www.roughcountry.com/jeep_liberty_3.html

from the picture there isn't much to it.

ATXKJ · **Posted:** Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:37 pm

Technically the OME spring is wound ~1 1/2 inch longer than stock - however because of the spring rate you typically get ~2, 2 1/2"
actually I took a Daystar 2 1/2" out - put OME790's in and had the same lift
(however the Daystar had weakened the original springs a bit)

- I am running an ARB bumper so that impacts it a bit.

The rough country is basically a super clevis lift - it puts a spacer under the front

DirtyKK · **Posted:** Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:40 pm

mikey1273 wrote:

I beleive this is the lift they are selling.

http://www.roughcountry.com/jeep_liberty_3.html

from the picture there isn't much to it.

hope thats not it. the description says not for diesel.

mikey1273 · **Posted:** Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:04 pm

DirtyKK wrote:

mikey1273 wrote:

I beleive this is the lift they are selling.

http://www.roughcountry.com/jeep_liberty_3.html

from the picture there isn't much to it.

hope thats not it. the description says not for diesel.

well it is the exact price he quoted for the parts. I rounded up in my op cus I was posting from my blackberry phone..... I'm too lazy to use the alt key too much LOL

I didn't see the "not for diesel" I was mostly looking at what came in the kit and what it promised to do.

not being so trusting is turning out to be a good thing here

TAHOE · **Posted:** Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:57 am

To do it properly, you need to spend a bit more $$$, but you CRD will thank you in the end.
Here is a short list of the parts you should buy, stay away from the spacer lifts, unless you go with a Daystar, but then your front factory springs will need replaced eventually as they will begin or have already sagged. You will net about 2 1/2" inches or so of lift.
(took list from trobows thread, just changed a couple part #'s)
Contact Boulder Bars for parts, the RSX shocks will be going away, but I believe he still has some.
Frankie uses about the same parts listed below

RSX 17505's x2
RSX 17004's x2
OME 790's x2
OME 948's x2
Teraflex Bumpstops x2

Optional.....
Rear Spacers( factory rubbers) x 2 (or 4)
Conduit nuts x6 ( 2" diameter) or Boilers spacers
Upper A-Arms x2 ( Al J's)

RTStabler51 · **Posted:** Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:16 pm

IIRC those Ranchos have been discontinued.

TAHOE · **Posted:** Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:49 pm

RTStabler51 wrote:

IIRC those Ranchos have been discontinued.

They have, but boulder bars still has or did have a limited supply.

ATXKJ · **Posted:** Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:06 pm

Yeah but the front Ranchos don't work as well for the extra weight of the Diesel
Al J's recommends the OME's - and they're great

mikey1273 · **Posted:** Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:43 pm

I emailed the guy back after he sent me that quote and told him I didn't think that would work on the CRD. he apoligized and said I was right and he forgot to double check the specs for that lift. He admitted he it will not work as we know. Now he is saying the most afordable option is daystar. Daystar is a spacer AKA body lift with better rear shocks. Not sure I will be happy with that.

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