I was driving home from work and saw the indicator on the dash and the light overhead that said "Tire Pressure Low". I decide an hour or so later that I'd stop at a gas station and top off the tires. I pull out the guage and find that my front tire is at 25psi. When I go to fill it, I notice a gaping HOLE in the sidewall! Definitely not a defect, or anything, I'm sure I was too eager parallel parking on of these times.

So needless to say, I swapped the spare in. I could hear the air escaping from it when it got wet.

So now I ask you all, what do I do? I currently have 4 Goodyear RS/A 235/70R16 tires on gunmetal renegade rims.

A). Replace that tire with a new Goodyear, same size + model.
B). Replace that tire with a new tire of the same size, but a better tire. Use it as the spare, and if another tire goes, buy the other 3 to match it.
C). Just replace all 5 tires with a new style + size.

I like the rims I have, so it would take a really good reason to get new ones.

If B or C, suggestions on which size to go to (I have a 2005 renegade, no lift (yet), but I am considering one) and which tire to get. I like the look of the MTR, but I don't know if it's worth getting MTRs that are small enough to fit without a lift.

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Jeff, if you are doing mostly on road, I went this way..


http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/vie ... php?t=5177

I have several sets of wheels for my KJ and prefer these. I don't off road except gravel roads to camp.

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i'd get a better set of the biggest stock size (235/75R16). Maybe try a revo a/t or a set of BFG A/T's.

If you are planning on a lift in the near future, get tires in the 245/75 or 255/70 range. A clevis lift will take care of most of the rubbing. Any other rubbing will only encourage you to take the dive and buy a lift sooner.

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Use the spare to replace the cut tire. Replace the spare with a larger tire, then replace the other four with the larger size whenever you need/want to in the future.

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I do mostly on road, but I like the off-road, too, and I don't mind driving on a more aggressive tire, even if it does mean a little more road noise.


Biggest stock size is 235/70R16 (not 75) (and it's what I have). 245/75R16 is what the wrangler rubicons have on em. I was looking for the "this is the size tire that will fit" thread, but can't find it. 245/75R16 will fit? Is the rubbing just on tight turns, or when driving straight as well? I think I want to buy a lift, but I was hoping to wait until the jeep is a couple years old (it just hit its first birthday)



Isn't there some danger in driving on one large tire and 4 smaller tires? I mean, I wouldn't be doing it much, but I'm not sure what the point of carrying the full size spare is if I can't use it for more than a short drive without engangering the drivetrain.

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You won't be driving on the larger spare unless you blow out another tire. If that happens then you have a case against Goodyear for defective tires - 2 tires in x many days. You really can't go much bigger than 245/70/16 without a lift and not have any rubbing. If you really are planning on a lift in the near future (say 3-4 months) then just get the bigger tires now. If not you might as well use up the stock tires a bit before getting new rubber.

If you are interested in MT/Rs then check out the Firestone Destination M/T. Its rated #1 on tirerack and its about 3/4 of the price of the MT/R. Some guys have been able to put 40K miles + on these tires.

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My question would be how many miles you got on em... I only had 10,000 on mine when I got run off the road into some rocks and killed "spare" ... just bought another one since I figured I'm going to get a least 35,000 outa them... and I have no plans to upgrade (Yet)

So My vote would be A

Or do a lift and the tire size of your choice all at once with your tax return?

Either way I do love the TPS.

Mike

You can run different sizes of tire if you dont have the trac lock in the rear. It would be fine to run 1 bigger tire on the front even if you have trac lock in the rear. You cant put it into 4wd though. I wouldnt do this very long at all either. Causes the pumpkin to heat up where one tire is turning faster than the other.

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I do have the trac-loc. And to answer the other question, my current tires have about 16,000 on them.

In any case, It's all said and done now. I thought a lot about getting 5 new tires, but I wouldn't have been able to go much larger until I got a lift. So I've decided to put off the new tires until these ones get to their end, and do the lift at the same time (or more likely, the lift first)

So for now, I bought a General Grabber AT2 from TireRack in 235/70R16, $100 shipped. The plan was to just get a cheap tire to use as a spare, and that one just happened to be cheaper than anything local. It's sorta sad that I'll have a tire like that that will never see pavement.... maybe it will have some resale when I sell it in a year with zero miles on it?

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4x4, 6spd, Leather, Sunroof, trak-loc, skids/rails, hitch+shackle, hooks, Alpine/iPod, Thule, GPS, CB, Frankenlifted w/ 31" MTRs
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If your looking for some better tires that will fit stock, I have 4 BFGoodrich All-Terrain's im trying to get rid of. PM me for details.

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I should read your whole post before I pm'd

I can make you a screaming deal on that tire.

Hey Jeff,
A couple of options for you (in case you change your mind).

First, someone mentioned the Destination M/T's. The largest you could get in THAT tire without a ift is LT225/75/16. I believe this is a stock size for the KJ. I started with the GY Wrangler ST's at 215/75/16. The 225 Destinations were an inch taller than my stock tires. Here is what they look like.



Second, you could go with a 245/70/16 Revo (which is what I currently run) Not as aggressive, but they seemed to work OK when we were out last year. These are an inch taller, and inch wider than the stock ST's I had. I switched to them from the Destinations because the Destinations were too loud and too stiff of a ride. For everyday use, the Revo's are the way to go. This is what the revo's look like on the same KJ.



Now, if you were going to go with option one, you might want to check out the Firestone shop at the Liberty Tree Mall in Danvers. As far as I know, the ones I had on mine are still there, and they only have about 200 miles on them. You might be able to get them a bit cheaper as they are considered USED My brother used to work there (no longer does) but I might be able to have him get some info if you are interested. Let me know.

Good Luck!

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I really wish I'd waited. I guess it doesn't matter, $100 isn't all that much. It's not going to match the others, but it's just going to be the spare anyway. Going back to 4 tire rotations instead of 5 just brings me that much closer to wearing these puppies out and getting ready for a lift!

But if anyone is actually looking for a General Grabber AT2 in a 235/70R16 size, let me know. It'll be in great shape hiding under my vinyl cover for the next year or two.

The irony of the situation is that the Wrangler SR/A is actually worth almost twice as much as that General Grabber AT2, according to TireRack + other sites.

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4x4, 6spd, Leather, Sunroof, trak-loc, skids/rails, hitch+shackle, hooks, Alpine/iPod, Thule, GPS, CB, Frankenlifted w/ 31" MTRs
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Thanks! I think I really am going to wait for a lift before putting new tires on. Money isn't tight or anything, I'm just waiting for the stock tires to wear out before sinking money into new ones. The largest size that will fit is only about a half an inch larger than the 235/70R16s I have already. I figure if I'm going to spend the money on 5 new tires, I may as well opt for 30 or 31" tires, since the price difference between them isn't all that much (and I want a lift anyway, the renny 4wd sits SO low).

Maybe I should jumpstart the process and put the lift on this spring?

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Jeff 2005 Jeep Liberty Renegade
4x4, 6spd, Leather, Sunroof, trak-loc, skids/rails, hitch+shackle, hooks, Alpine/iPod, Thule, GPS, CB, Frankenlifted w/ 31" MTRs
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I say go Option A until you get the lift then go Option C

If you wheel a lot I suggest going with the 265/75/16

If you don't wheel to often I say a 245/75/16

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