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 Post subject: Question: low sulfer Diesel
PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:59 am 
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So I was out at a customer site today when the waste oil guy came to pick up the fry oil, we started chatting about bio and ULSD.

Se stated that he has a 06 Mercedes in his Freightliner and since the new ULSD came out he ads 4oz of 30wt motor oil to each tank during the fill up.

He reasoning is that the ULSD has less lubrication and that the engine life will decrease without the oil he adds in.

I worked at the airport and the guys would filter out the waste JetA and add ATF for the very same reason, granted ULSD is not JetA.

Any truth to this? Should we be adding anything to the tank when we fill up?

Just something to chew over.

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 Post subject: Re: Question: low sulfer Diesel
PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:32 am 
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Ive always added an additive to each tank just because. I like higher cetane levels etc. Part of the movement to ULS diesel (15 parts per billion) included the refineries adding a lubrication additive. Technically you shouldnt have to worry about it, but I still add one every tank. I use Stanadyne, Amsoil or Lubromoly per fill up.


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Mash on the link, it leads to a recent thread relating to diesel fuel additives.


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 Post subject: Re: Question: low sulfer Diesel
PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:14 am 
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Adding extra lube to the fuel is always a good idea, bio is by far the best. 30W oil is not a good choice, it is not formulated for burning in a combustion chamber, and depending on the additive package it may have adverse effects on the fuel system.

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 Post subject: Re: Question: low sulfer Diesel
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RJM wrote:
Adding extra lube to the fuel is always a good idea, bio is by far the best. 30W oil is not a good choice, it is not formulated for burning in a combustion chamber, and depending on the additive package it may have adverse effects on the fuel system.

X2, engine oil detergents and other additives leave undesirable deposits.
There have been lots of tests on lube additives for diesel showing their wear reduction.

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 Post subject: Re: Question: low sulfer Diesel
PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:16 pm 
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In my 06, I use B5 biodiesel or 8 oz of low ash 2 stroke oil per full ta Bnk of gas. In my 07 CRD with diesel particulate filter, I use B2.5 Biodiesel and XPD when I can't blend 50/50 B5 biodiesel with regular diesel


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I put in Stanadyne on a schedule of "whenever I remember to" with my CRD... Haven't had any issues that can be tied directly to the fuel, good or bad.

I will say that on the few occasions that I have found a supply of low sulfur diesel instead of this ULSD crap... The CRD has run noticeably better, and I have gotten much better economy on that tank. Even considering the 'quality' of the fuel station and the fact that it is a MESSY place, and that the fuel probably isn't very clean either... The CRD STILL runs better on it.

Too bad that stuff is getting harder to find, and biodiesel isn't getting any easier to find. My CRD loves biodiesel even more than the low-sulfur rotgut.

Smoother operation, better power and economy... And its produced in the USA! Whats not to love about biodiesel, except the scarcity!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:16 pm 
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I recently produced and tested my first 5 gallon batch of home brewed Biodiesel. It took me a while to learn the process with the thought of "Safety First" in mind. I noticed that the CRD ran smoother, quieter with no smelly fish odor coming out of the exhaust.


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As others have said, adding some bio is the best "lubricity additive" you can get. If it's available, run the highest concentration you can depending on how cold it gets where you live. After it's first 1,800 miles from Oklahoma to California our CRD has always run B100 except when we go skiing. Then we splash blend to B50 w/ winter D2 and some Power Service.

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 Post subject: Re: Question: low sulfer Diesel
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grywlfbg wrote:
As others have said, adding some bio is the best "lubricity additive" you can get. If it's available, run the highest concentration you can depending on how cold it gets where you live. After it's first 1,800 miles from Oklahoma to California our CRD has always run B100 except when we go skiing. Then we splash blend to B50 w/ winter D2 and some Power Service.


Grr... Lucky bugger, that you can get B100 easily! I'm so jealous.

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