Help with Locker

ryan.blair2009 · **Joined:** Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:03 pm **Posts:** 17

OK don't shoot me because i've REALLY searched for hours and hours and never really found conclusive information that would give me what I need. I want to put some type of locker in the from of my 05 Liberty CRD, now it will almost never be climbing hills or mud bogging ( though i would love to, being realistic ), but snow and ice are a big concern. I need great road manners, as the wife drives it 70 miles a day roughly to work. My questions... Would a powertrax no slip or lock right work? If so what negative affects would be found if on FRONT only. Any difference while in 2 or 4WD? Any suggestions would be great. Thanks, Ryan

ridenby · **Posted:** Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:17 am

Trac-lok limited slip will work.

2006 KJ · **Posted:** Wed Oct 20, 2010 11:55 am

if money is not an issue for sure go with an ARB air locker. when you want it locked you flip a switch.. when your on road you cant tell its there when it's unlocked. but its pricey since you need a air compressor.. lines.. switches.. more lenghly install since it replaces the carrier and air lines need ran. It money is an object a lot of people use Detroit True Trac's in the front.

ryan.blair2009 · **Joined:** Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:03 pm **Posts:** 17

Well money is a pretty big factor 4 wheel parts will install a truetrak but for the tune of 1200 bucks and having my jeep in the shop (one vehicle family) doesn't really seem good, plus the cost. I have the tools and shop to do something like a powertax or the like and at around 400 is a lot easier to convince the wife department. Also would only NEED it 2-3 times a year. Also I hear on the back could cause traction problems if throttled around a turn, wondering how that would play out on the front.

KJ Willy · **Posted:** Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:03 pm

Think hard about doing a Detriot if you are in snow and ice area. I have not been in that type of area with mine but have been told many times to be careful if I do go.

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:52 pm

You only get really 2 choices for the front,neither are cheap.The ARB and the DTT(LSD).Scratch putting a aussie or any other luchbox locker up front as you will have to pull the diff to install anyways as the center pin has a roll pin holding it in and not a bolt.Forget about a auto locker like the regular Detroit locker if you ever plan on using the fulltime option in your t-case,same goes for the lunchbox lockers,as it will make steering nearly impossible.

I highly recommend the DTT,I had one up front and it kicked a s s in the winter time and offroading(ARB in the rear).

JeepinJarhead03 · **Posted:** Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:32 pm

It indeed.. Kicks Stupid

lol..

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:35 pm

JeepinJarhead03 wrote:

It indeed.. Kicks Stupid

lol..

Yeah I like how they change the word even when spelled like this a $ $(had to add spaces to keep it that way).

kskj · **Posted:** Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:07 pm

My front DTT worked great in the snow last year. Made a big difference.

ryan.blair2009 · **Joined:** Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:03 pm **Posts:** 17

Thanks for the advice, even though its not what I wanted to hear. I would rather hear now and save time and hassle, then learn the hard way. Sad day indeed, oh well. Thanks for steering me clear from possible big mistake.

audiboy86 · **Posted:** Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:41 am

Can anyone give me some more information on the DTT(LSD) like a website where i can actually purchase one.

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:15 am

audiboy86 wrote:

Can anyone give me some more information on the DTT(LSD) like a website where i can actually purchase one.

Here is some info...................

http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/ProductsServices/PerformanceProducts/Products/Differentials/DetroitTruetrac/index.htm

Any place that sells gears and such and many offroad shops can get them.

audiboy86 · **Posted:** Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:17 am

What is the spline count and ratio in the front end of our KJs i know my rear is 3.73 with 29 spline count. Also does anyone have any experience with the Eaton E-locker and are they worth it or not?

ryan.blair2009 · **Joined:** Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:03 pm **Posts:** 17

What modifications if any were needed to put in the DTT and what gear ration for up front on CRD?

Vranes17 · **Posted:** Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:29 pm

I know an engineer at Eaton, what type of locker fits the KJ from Eaton, is it worth it? is it the DTT?

ryan.blair2009 · **Joined:** Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:03 pm **Posts:** 17

Vranes17 wrote:

I know an engineer at Eaton, what type of locker fits the KJ from Eaton, is it worth it? is it the DTT?

lol then ask him.

JeepinJarhead03 · **Posted:** Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:59 am

Guy might not know

Eaton makes a ton of stuff for lawnmowers too

but he might still get a company wide discount

Vranes17 · **Posted:** Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:23 pm

he just switched departments so. and yeah theres a doo doo ton of stuff they make, asked him and he didnt know, which was what i expected

CATCRD · **Posted:** Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:49 pm

Vranes17 wrote:

I know an engineer at Eaton, what type of locker fits the KJ from Eaton, is it worth it? is it the DTT?

The DTT is not a "locker". It is a limited slip, which is less aggressive and more streetable than a locker. I have one in the rear and it is awesome. You can get them for the front and the rear. I didn't get the Eaton E-locker because when it's not locked it's completely open. I don't want to fuss with switches on rainy or snowy streets - I just want it to work.

Vranes17 · **Posted:** Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:59 pm

CATCRD wrote:

Vranes17 wrote:

I know an engineer at Eaton, what type of locker fits the KJ from Eaton, is it worth it? is it the DTT?

The DTT is not a "locker". It is a limited slip, which is less aggressive and more streetable than a locker. I have one in the rear and it is awesome. You can get them for the front and the rear. I didn't get the Eaton E-locker because when it's not locked it's completely open. I don't want to fuss with switches on rainy or snowy streets - I just want it to work.

so the dtt is say 2nd reccomended to an arb?

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