Ok this is getting to be a real problems (joking)

I have had the Mobil station cut off the diesel pump twice while I was fuelng thinking I was filling a gas Jeep with diesel. Also happened at the Hess station two weeks ago. Then a clerk, at the Circle K, cut the pump off when my wife was fueling the Jeep and wouldn't turn it back on!!! Anyone else having these problems. I'm considering get a large sticker to put on the back that says "yes....it's a Diesel!"

Gotta love the looks you get when your filling it up..........specially at the big truck stops.

I've only filled mine up twice now and one of the times I did get some funny looks.

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2005 Unlimited (LJ) Rubicon w/ 5.5" of total lift
Flat Fenders made by http://www.jpfaboffroad.com/

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin, 1759

In Oregon, it is against the law to pump your own gas. And since I use BioDiesel I use a card-lock where I pump my own, and it is not attended. However, the one time that I did need to get a couple gallons to get me home I pulled into a Shell station, and the guy didn't believe me when I said diesel. He kept pushing the "Regular" button. I said, "No, Diesel!" and he was like "Regular?"

Once, when pulling into a station with our boat in tow, to fill the boat - they were very amazed that the Jeep was a diesel....

When I pulled into a rock yard to get some paving stones, the guy was about to tell me I had something wrong with my Jeep because it was knocking so bad - then he walked around the back and saw my "DIESEL" decal under the CRD Limited...

Let me see!...

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2005 Black CRD Sport
All J CRD Frankenlift with 500 fronts, Boulderbars, and Superskid
Kilby Gas Skid
Yukon Rear Axles
265/75 16 TrXus M/T's and Bridgestone Revo's
Fumoto Valve
Aero Turbine 2525
Rock Lizard Komodo Bumper
Sundance Custom's Front Bumper

Yeah, once while at the pump I had a guy behind me in a Dodge truck with the Cummins yell "Hey that's diesel you know!". I just smiled at him.

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2005 Stone White KJ Limited CRD 4x4
Off-Road Pkg
Trac-Lok
Emu 790s/948s
Skyjacker H7088s rear/Bilsteins front
15x7 Black Rock Lobos/31x10.50 Firestones
GDE HOT Tune + TCM Tune
Euro TC
CB radio
Thrush Turbo muffler
AEM DryFlow filter

In Oregon it's against the law to pump your own gas? What is the thinking behind that, and do you have to pay "full service" prices?

-mark

I've had to remind the same guy twice at my station that I want diesel, he keeps popping the "green" cap off the tank than grapping the "black" hose.

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No one knows as much as all of us.

Sounds like North-Carolina is the place to pump diesel.

I can't imagine a state where you have to have an attendant pump your fuel

Having the large nozzle inlet thingy is great but the flow is too great and the pump handle keeps kicking off.

When it is set on the first lever a fill-up is real quick.

Luck,

TP

Well, the law has been around since like the 30's. It was originally put in place to prevent fires - I think the actual codes were instituted by the Fire Marshalls. (Portland has a rich and vivid Fire Department history - so they were pretty advanced with fire codes)...

But when pumps were finally made "safe" for the common man, they just kept the law on the books.

Some people don't like it, some people do. I personally don't really care. It is nice in bad weather, but bad when you are in a hurry....

As far as prices - opponents claim it raises prices. I have not found that to be true. And here is why:

Prices in Portland tend to be a few cents higher than across the border in Vancouver, Washington. Opponents claim this is because the pump law.

I don't think so because not only are taxes different, but if you shop around it is possible to get prices in Portland lower than in Vancouver. In fact, prices around Portland tend to vary drastically based on neighborhood. I once found prices as varied as 30 cents a gallon - at the same company (Chevron).

Additionally, when you leave Portland gas prices drop as well - for instance in Sandy, Oregon just east of the city prices are usually 10 to 20 cents cheaper, and they have to pump the gas there too...

And then the prices in Seattle are higher than Oregon's.

So I think price is just an easy target...

Of course, you don't actually get "full service". They just pump for you. Thats it.

Motorcycles are exempt from the law, as of 2001. And they usually let me pump in my boat.

To use the "cardlock" pump I had to be "trained" (read a pamphlet) - and only am allowed to pump Diesel. Gasoline is too flammable (according to the law).

New Jersey and Oregon both have to be pumped by attendants.

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http://www.pdxbiodiesel.org

huh. I didn't know that. I learned something new today.

And nobody thinks that this is just a ploy to employ the otherwise unemployable?

Speaking of pumps... has anyone here had a problem w/ the big nozzles that big-rigs use? When I was in Vermont, I ran across a couple of pumps that this was the only option for diesel. It sucked... I had to trickle 18 gallons into my Jeep b/c of the silly restrictor in the tank. Anyone been successful in removing this?

Thx..

- Jeff

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Current Stable: (YES, I have a problem. NO, I don't want "help".)
FOUR Wheelers: 05 Jeep CRD Liberty, 09 VW Sportwagen TDI, 2000, Honda Odyssey, 1994 Mazda Miata, 2000 Mazda Miata
TWO Wheelers: 06 Triumph 675, 04 BMW R1150RT

I had to try it and went out the interstate to find a large nozzel pump today. I had no problem fueling. The nozzel was much bigger than what I'm use to but it fit in the fuel hole. Tight squeeze. I'm wondering if they enlarged the hole on latter models??

I had some guy in his Blazer staring at me yesterday in disbelief. He was shaking his head disaprovingly like I was putting in the wrong gas. I just smiled and nodded my head and said, "HELL YA IT'S A DIESEL!" I was thinking about having a windshield banner made up that says that.

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2005 Unlimited (LJ) Rubicon w/ 5.5" of total lift
Flat Fenders made by http://www.jpfaboffroad.com/

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin, 1759

My usual responce is some thing like this.
" I thought the diesel was better, it costs more"
Pat

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"Maps, we don't need no stinkin maps."

Let me know where you are traveling in Vermont and I will try to let you know where the small nozzels are. Wish I could get a new diesel in Cali--- oops Vermont . 1997 Passat TDI Plus the Liberty

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Blue 2002 Sport
Off Road and Tow package
Franken Lift II, LT 245/75R16 Godyear MTRs
Snowtracker studed snow tires.

Being a woman, it's even better. Guys are like "ma'am, uh... MA'AM! That's diesel!!" i just smile sweetly and say "yes, I know..." I'm sure they think I'm nuts...

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<b>05 Patriot Blue CRD Limited</b>
Rockfather II lift
Custom rock rails & skids
Rubi tires and wheels

LMAO...

Actually all of your CRD stories are too funny. Almost makes me wish I had a CRD!

That would be awesome!

Had my first shutoff today. I went to the diesel pump turned it on pulled the trigger and nothing happened. I thought it must be pay before you pump as the diesel pump didn't have a credit card slot like the gas pumps did. I walked into the store and the clerk said he shut it off when he saw me trying to put diesel in the car. He turned it on when I told him it was the new diesel engine. He was very nice, was just looking out for his customers trying to protect us from ourselves. I guess I am now in the fuel pump shut off club.