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Frostii · **Joined:** Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:48 am **Posts:** 54

OK, so I'm a newbie. I have spent the last few months trying to find the perfect lift for my '05 Libby. It's a gasser. My head is swimming with info. I have read good things about JBA, and Frankenlift. Also read great things about OME. Read horror story after horror story about RRO. I am on a budget but want to do this right. HELP!!!

I have never worked on a suspension of any sort but am willing to give it a shot. (to learn and save on labor).

I have also been told to stay away from budget lifts.

Does anyone have input on JBA vs Frankenlift? And is there a more affordable way to do it?

-Much Appreciation

NOTE: I know that I will get the JBA A arms and that at some point I will be getting ARB bumpers front/rear so the lift will have to account for the extra weight to prevent sagging. Rescue gear imperative!

tommudd · **Posted:** Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:32 am

There is a little post all about lifts lots of great information
ARB does not make rear bumpers
Cheapest you're going to get is in the 7-800 range with everything (4) shocks, (4) springs bumpstops, etc.
OME springs are the best way to go and what JBA sells plus AllJs use them in the Frankenlift

Welcome to LOST where there is a ton of information if you take the time to read through it all! :wink:

Frostii · **Joined:** Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:48 am **Posts:** 54

I appreciate the info. I wondered if piecing it together is the way to go. OME seems to be the go-to stuff.

So aside from JBA A arms and OME coils n bumps....what else would you recommend to complete the lift?

tommudd · **Posted:** Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:57 pm

OME 927s/948s
either OME shocks or Bilstein, make sure you get the 132Ls if getting OME rear shocks
Teraflex front bumpstops
rear use two per side Hockey pucks
if you want more lift then JBA 1/4 inch top plate for an extra 1/2 inch and 3/8 inch clevis for 3/4 inch more, if doing that two extra upper isolators in the rear per side
also depending on year brake line extension bracket for the rear

steve03sport · **Posted:** Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:49 pm

tom the list u just said how much will that run roughly? and that vs frankenlift any better either way?

tommudd · **Posted:** Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:39 pm

700-800 roughly
haven't priced everything out for a month or so

Frankenlift easy to install since its all together

Frostii · **Joined:** Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:48 am **Posts:** 54

Wow! That is pretty in depth! I can't believe how incredible the people are and how helpful this is. I am a hardcore fan of Lifted KJs but have never had the 4x4 worth lifting until I sold my 2wd to buy this one 6 months ago. It's tough cuz you can't believe everything you hear or read. Also, I live in Tulsa and every shop I've talked to has told me it's not worth the money or time to mess with a KJ...or didn't know how to do a KJ. With the exception of one....Randy at Ryno's has spent an hour or so over the last 3 months giving me info.

bunkermonkeycw · **Posted:** Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:47 am

This place, (LOST) has been my only resource. People will give you a line for a million reasons, do YOU want a lifted liberty?

bigjimslade · **Joined:** Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:37 pm **Posts:** 100

I just got this setup with OME springs, Bilstein shocks, 4 rear upper isolators, 1/4" top plate from JBA, new LBJ's and JBA UCA's. That plus misc parts: hockey pucks, brake line relocation and other hardware and paying a shop to do the fronts for me I'm looking at around $1450 total. Without UCA's and LBJ's you can knock off about $525 off that price. I decided while it's torn apart I might as well have the new UCA's and LBJ's. You might get down close to $800 if you can do the front assemblies yourself.

Frostii · **Joined:** Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:48 am **Posts:** 54

About how high did that put your lift with the JBA 1/4" top plates? Also, what size tires you rockin? Lastly....Is that Big Jim Slade from Kentucky Fried Movie?

Almost forgot....coil and shocks specs too!

tommudd · **Posted:** Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:12 am

steve03sport · **Posted:** Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:40 pm

tom you still wanna install my lift? :wink:

bigjimslade · **Joined:** Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:37 pm **Posts:** 100

Frostii wrote:

About how high did that put your lift with the JBA 1/4" top plates? Also, what size tires you rockin? Lastly....Is that Big Jim Slade from Kentucky Fried Movie?

Almost forgot....coil and shocks specs too!

Mine is not actually on yet but should put me at about 22 1/2" center of wheel to fender based on all the research I've done. Considering I'm slightly sagged at 18 1/2"-front and 19"-rear it should look pretty nice. I'm going to be running 245/70's for a while yet. I got new tires just this past December before I decided to go forward with a lift. Unless I get a good deal on some Moabs and can sell mine for a good price I'll be sticking with them for a while. Yeah a guy I used to work with started calling me that (my name is Jim) so I started using it.

Here's the coil and shock info (recommended by tommudd)...well, coils are pretty much the only ones recommended for the Liberty.

OME springs
OME 927 front springs
OME 948 rear springs
Bilstein shocks
F4-BE5-D916-H0 front shocks
and
F4-BE5-6458-H7 rear shocks

Frostii · **Joined:** Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:48 am **Posts:** 54

I feel bad for you guys....having to put up with newbies like myself trying to catch up on all the info. Yeah, Tom's the man. I was starting to drown in options.

I will be running the stock 17" wheels and 245/65/17 's for a while because this stuff is getting expensive quick. Will hafta upgrade in waves.

CoopaTroopa · **Posted:** Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:38 pm

My lift will cost me 914.32 exact with out the a arms... still undecided. It consists of...
2-OME927 Springs
2-OMENS131 Shocks
1-JBA Strut spacer plate set
2-TeraFlex Bumpstops
2-OME948 Springs
2-OMEN132L Shocks
4-Upper Isos

irollgen4s · **Posted:** Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:25 pm

Hey everyone, im sorry to jack the topic but im sure this will answer several others questions. My 06 CRD is premium franky lifted and now has settled, i havent measured it but based on the rubbing im getting its not as high as it once was. Im looking at ordering JBA's front 1/4 spacers, but im unsure of how many to get to bring it to Max CRD lift without the CV angles getting too intense.

Im also curious how many rear iso's(top i assume?) will bring it level with the front.

Also, with the front JBA spacers, would the spring have to be taken off the shock, or do they mount elsewear?

Thanks guys :JEEPIN:

steve03sport · **Posted:** Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:02 pm

ordered franky2 today. i really could use some help putting thelift in. if anyone can help please do let me know thanks alot

tommudd · **Posted:** Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:05 pm

irollgen4s wrote:

Hey everyone, im sorry to jack the topic but im sure this will answer several others questions. My 06 CRD is premium franky lifted and now has settled, i havent measured it but based on the rubbing im getting its not as high as it once was. Im looking at ordering JBA's front 1/4 spacers, but im unsure of how many to get to bring it to Max CRD lift without the CV angles getting too intense.

Im also curious how many rear iso's(top i assume?) will bring it level with the front.

Also, with the front JBA spacers, would the spring have to be taken off the shock, or do they mount elsewear?

Thanks guys :JEEPIN:

You can only install one per side, bolts are not long enough for any more
that will give you one half inch of lift
to install you pull the whole spring assembly out and place on top and reinstall , well just have to drop it down enough to place on top

tommudd · **Posted:** Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:06 pm

steve03sport wrote:

ordered franky2 today. i really could use some help putting thelift in. if anyone can help please do let me know thanks alot

Run it over here! :ROTFL:

Frankys are easy to install, just make sure you have some good rachet straps to pull them in

irollgen4s · **Posted:** Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:13 pm

tommudd wrote:

irollgen4s wrote:

Hey everyone, im sorry to jack the topic but im sure this will answer several others questions. My 06 CRD is premium franky lifted and now has settled, i havent measured it but based on the rubbing im getting its not as high as it once was. Im looking at ordering JBA's front 1/4 spacers, but im unsure of how many to get to bring it to Max CRD lift without the CV angles getting too intense.

Im also curious how many rear iso's(top i assume?) will bring it level with the front.

Also, with the front JBA spacers, would the spring have to be taken off the shock, or do they mount elsewear?

Thanks guys :JEEPIN:

You can only install one per side, bolts are not long enough for any more
that will give you one half inch of lift
to install you pull the whole spring assembly out and place on top and reinstall , well just have to drop it down enough to place on top

Just posted this in the CRD section since im looking to order this, hasty move on my part :banghead:

. So with the top plate in, which sounds easy enough since i dont have to decompress the spring and take that apart, would i be able to do a clevis lift to to get me about an inch higher, and still be safe with my CV's?

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