Glad to help,
You shouldnt have any issues with the Bcm if you are swapping the entire wiring harness even the doors need doing with the switches. The window motors are ok though.If you are going to swap the headliner there is a bit of work to do. Where the shades attach the retaining clip is nearer the centerline of the vehicle and you will have to fab up a bracket behind the liner to fix it. If you can get hold of a couple of harness diagrams for your model years you may find that you can keep some of the original wiring. It takes a bit of searching in the workshop manuals but it is possible. You will also have to swap the door and ignition barrels/locks and fuel filler cap if its a lockable one, and any other parts of the alarm system.This is so the Bcm and alarm will work. Basicaly you are reshelling the Crd. You will find it easier to keep the diff, driveshafts, hubs, brakes, steering rack and and suspension arms on the subframe. As all you need to do is unbolt the shocks under the bonnet, upper arms, steering rack joint and the four bolts on the bottom of the subframe at each corner. Then bolt this into your V6 chassis rails it will save you a lot of time.I used the older (Raccor type) diesel filter head fitted to the Euro spec diesels as this was my original set up. The installation for this type is posted on this forum. If I can think of anything else i will let you know. Looks like you are going to be busy.

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2003 2.5 CRD Limited.Atlantic Blue.Engine being swapped for a 2005 28crd.
dragon Tuning chip,K&N,Borla Twin Exhaust,Asfir alloy engine & gearbox skid,Yukon shafts and Crane rear diff cover.Detroit TrueTrac slip diff. Mopar3.75 ring and pinion. Fitted a six speed gear box.Provent and dodge ram lift pump.

Well, the 3.7 is out and the 2.8 is finally bolted in. The 3.7 came straight out the front end, harness and all. But the CRD drive unit was dropped from the rollover onto an engine dolly and jack and wheeled out from under the carcass up on the lift. Then the 02 was lifted and the CRD drivetrain fitted from underneath. Everything pretty much bolted right up exit the transmission cross members were different, so a bit of fabrication was in order. Fortunately we were able to construct a custom "blended" cross member mount using both the 02 and 05 mounts. Now everything fits perfectly. The mod was pretty straightforward and only took about 30 minutes to get just right. Otherwise so far everything has been straight forward and going to plan.

Difference between the 02 and 05 transmission cross members:
http://s279.photobucket.com/albums/kk13 ... 040149.jpg

Custom transmission cross member mount made from 02 and 05 mounts. I would not have attempted this project if I didn't have my mechanic (the BEST independent in Florida without a doubt) available:
http://s279.photobucket.com/albums/kk13 ... 040156.jpg

Transmission with custom mount in place, fits like a GLOVE:
http://s279.photobucket.com/albums/kk13 ... 040156.jpg

GBKJ2003, thanks for all your advice. We have already done/confirmed much of what you have said, so it is comforting to know we are on the right track at least. Hopefully tomorrow I will swap the rear ends, tank and lines while the expert gets all the wiring done. The 05 broken driver's lower control arm was swapped with the original 02 and it is identical, otherwise the whole drivetrain was swapped attached to the subframe as you suggested and it worked well, although moving it out on the makeshift dollys was a bit precarious and frightening (that is one HEAVY four cylinder):
http://s279.photobucket.com/albums/kk13 ... 172425.jpg

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With enough fabbing, time & $, it's certainly possible.
That being said, it's like boinkin' your sister...just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

Pretty cool.

Thanks techman02, don't know why I can't post pics. The top trans cross member is from the 05 CRD, bottom is the 02 3.7. Middle pic is the "combined" 02/05 cross member mount my mechanic made from the 02 and 05 mounts. This was the only part we had to fabricate so far as the tranny cross members are the only differences we've encountered. Bottom pic is the CRD drivetrain on the "dolly" we rigged. Moving it was frightening as it was perched precariously. We moved it VERY slowly. Now the drivetrain is completely bolted in and the wiring harness is in place. Next is connecting the harness. Does anyone know if the 02 and 05 interior harnesses are different (window switches etc.)?

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Hello Beelatch,
I had A limited spec 2003kj and the donor vehicle was a sport spec 2005 kj. The door harnesses were different due to the infinity speakers that were fitted,and the main harness didnt have provision for them.You can make the wiring work but as i had the parts i found it quicker to pull the original wiring and swap it. All the motors, switches and door lock connections are the same. I also had to rewire the seats to make them work with power and heat again,which has been covered on this forum.
Happy new year.

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2003 2.5 CRD Limited.Atlantic Blue.Engine being swapped for a 2005 28crd.
dragon Tuning chip,K&N,Borla Twin Exhaust,Asfir alloy engine & gearbox skid,Yukon shafts and Crane rear diff cover.Detroit TrueTrac slip diff. Mopar3.75 ring and pinion. Fitted a six speed gear box.Provent and dodge ram lift pump.

GBKJ2003, On the driver's side by the headlight area there is a large 10 wire (I think) connector on the harness. It appears that the pins on that connector are in different positions on the two harnesses, ie, like say 2 in the bottom left corner on one but on the top middle on the other, or something like that. I'll try to get a pic tomorrow. Did your connectors match? Did you just plug in that connector and did everything work as expected?

Also, on the 05 harness in that same area there are three loose wires (with plugs attached) hanging right next to that large connector. I imagine the connector was destroyed in the rollover. It seems like maybe a light of some kind, maybe a turn signal, but it is three wires. We can't find a corresponding three wire connector in the same area on the 02 harness. Any ideas?

I will probably just replace the 02 stock speakers with after markets, so I should be able to use the 02 interior body harness right, or are you saying the 05 main harness won't work with the 02 interior body harness? IOW, is the 05 interior body harness just needed for the Infinity speakers?

Happy New Year to you too, and all members!

Just one note for the record (for those following the steps). We did not swap the upper control arms and shocks, we left the 02's in place but swapped everything else on the subframe. I actually had to replace the upper control arms with new ones as the ball joint boots were all torn apart.

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Hello,
The ten pin connector isnt terminated the same as you say you need to get the pin outsfor the head lights and reconfigure it to suit the 05 harness as this does the headlights, a/c radiator fan,external temperature sensor and front fogs if fitted. It might be easier to refit the 05 harness into the 02 front carrier panel. I saw the pics and take it you are keeping the 02 panels if you are then you will have to replace the washer pump bottle as this is easier and quicker than lengthening the wiring and changing the plugs.The three wires you mention sound like they maybe for the indicator and side marker light. I have had it running but I think the immobiliser needs reflashing as it cuts out after five seconds. Also as I have converted the auto to manual I am placing an order withe GDE for a hot tune with the automatic sensors deleted. They have been a great help.
It sounds like you are almost there.
Good luck

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2003 2.5 CRD Limited.Atlantic Blue.Engine being swapped for a 2005 28crd.
dragon Tuning chip,K&N,Borla Twin Exhaust,Asfir alloy engine & gearbox skid,Yukon shafts and Crane rear diff cover.Detroit TrueTrac slip diff. Mopar3.75 ring and pinion. Fitted a six speed gear box.Provent and dodge ram lift pump.

Hello Beelatch,
I forgot to mention the accelerator pedal will need to be swapped as the pedal is drive by wire. On my shell it even had the fixings mounted to the floor ready to go.!! You might get away with keeping the brake servo/booster as I found them to have the same outlet size for the two lines. Which will save a lot of time. I had to swap all the solid brake lines but all the flexibles can be reused. This conversion might be different on later models with traction control and four line brake hoses if anyone else is thinking about this swap.

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2003 2.5 CRD Limited.Atlantic Blue.Engine being swapped for a 2005 28crd.
dragon Tuning chip,K&N,Borla Twin Exhaust,Asfir alloy engine & gearbox skid,Yukon shafts and Crane rear diff cover.Detroit TrueTrac slip diff. Mopar3.75 ring and pinion. Fitted a six speed gear box.Provent and dodge ram lift pump.

i thought only that the 07 KJ's had the drive by wire system

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With enough fabbing, time & $, it's certainly possible.
That being said, it's like boinkin' your sister...just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

CRD's have TBW regardless of year.

Yup, got the pedal assembly out and we did keep the original booster. Today we'll be swapping the 02 off the lift so the 05 CRD can go back on. Then we'll pull brake and fuel lines, tank, fuel receptacle and rear end. Had to keep the original washer bottle as the CRD one is larger and mounts differently to the chassis. Had to swap the connectors that is the only cutting we did on the harness. Cranked it over just for kicks and everything seems fine. Getting close

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The CRD shell is gone.

http://s279.photobucket.com/albums/kk13 ... 122731.jpg

http://s279.photobucket.com/albums/kk13 ... 122723.jpg

http://s279.photobucket.com/albums/kk13 ... 122714.jpg

Only things left to attach are the fuel tank and rear bumper. Then timing belt and radiator, chargecooler, etc.

You can watch an entertaining video of our send off of the CRD carcass to the scrap yard here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4la_GgNw ... e=youtu.be

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From someone that drives a forklift on a daily basis that was not smart

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With enough fabbing, time & $, it's certainly possible.
That being said, it's like boinkin' your sister...just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

That was the fourth carcass they (a boat repair shop adjacent to my mechanic's) "disposed of" that I know of (all without any mishaps). It and a VW Jetta fared the best. They haul huge boats around all day mostly with forklifts and special dollys. It was hauled off an hour later to the scrap yard. Found out a bare Liberty carcass is worth $90.

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hey any updates on this build

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With enough fabbing, time & $, it's certainly possible.
That being said, it's like boinkin' your sister...just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

Yes, I finally have one. Things progressed along quite consistently until it was time to finally crank it over to test it. This was early January. It still had the problem of running for a couple seconds and then shutting off. Then eventually it wouldn't even crank so we figured we must have 'locked' the PCM due to too many 'invalid' starting attempts. Remember we have no idea if the key actually matched the vehicle in the first place. So I purchased a used PCM and matching gateway (front control) module since my mechanic's reader was getting gateway module comm errors. Then we were back to start, run for 2 seconds and die. So I towed it to the Jeep dealer and after the tech used his comm tools he reset the VIN and tried starting but same story. Then after a couple more ideas and attempts it 'locked' also. So back to the mechanic's shop. This time I bought a used PCM, TCM, gateway module and instrument cluster all from the same vehicle. Also got a brand new immobilizer from Jeep. Called the locksmith to program the immobilizer/key to the PCM but he couldn't communicate with the new immobilizer (but he still could with the old one) - all the codes we tried from the different VINs of all the modules we had did not work. So, what's a guy to do now? My mechanic belongs to a professional mechanic's forum so we went to the Jeep section and told our story. One tech answered that we needed a DRB-3 programmer to tell the PCM that it is a replacement. So we need a Jeep mechanic that actually knows what he is doing AND has a DRB-3 device. We contacted the AutoLogic (the $10000 programmer my mechanic has) sales rep and asked if he knows someone that has a DRB-3. He put us in touch with a guy and he came out to try to resolve the issue but couldn't fix it there so we towed it to his shop. That was Wednesday. Friday he called and said to come get it, it now runs. One PCM was actually bad and another had some pins that didn't seat well. So Monday i will take it back to my mechanic's shop where it will get a new T belt and water pump/accessories. Then the front end goes on with a modified bumper support (the original is mangled) and the interior put back in. Then we drive it off into the sunset (fingers crossed). I expect to have it on the road by next Friday. It has been an eventful venture to say the least and I will do a post mortem once it is finished, but aside from the time and headaches I think it was worth it. If the rollover vehicle had run correctly when we got it, I am certain we would have been driving it for several months buy now. So we weren't just doing a conversion, we were also fixing a non-running vehicle as well. Still, I have saved money in the long run and that was my primary goal. I will post again when it is on the road and we know how it drives.

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Hello.
Good to hear you are nearly there. I had a similar problem with the motor shutting down. Had a few chats with Keith at Green diesel tuning.I found them very helpful. I bought a scan tool and a modified eco tune, with some outputs deleted. This is because I am using the six speed manual instead of the auto box, fitted in the donor car. I had to reflash twice to get it to clear the fault codes and it seems to have worked. Got it booked in for an Mot so I should be back on the road thursday.

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2003 2.5 CRD Limited.Atlantic Blue.Engine being swapped for a 2005 28crd.
dragon Tuning chip,K&N,Borla Twin Exhaust,Asfir alloy engine & gearbox skid,Yukon shafts and Crane rear diff cover.Detroit TrueTrac slip diff. Mopar3.75 ring and pinion. Fitted a six speed gear box.Provent and dodge ram lift pump.

So the specifics were the PCM from the rollover was erratic (accepts programming then loses it) and therefore worthy of the garbage can and the gateway (front control) module had some loose pins so when plugging in the wire harness it was essential to ensure the individual wires were solidly seated (causing the comm. errors). Had these malfunctions not been present, or at least known to us, this project would have been wrapped up months ago. Anyway, it was nice to pick up the Jeep today from Advanced Automotive Technology in Largo, FL. (free plug for them for a job well done) and drop it off at my mechanic's shop, especially since I loaded/unloaded it from the trailer UNDER ITS OWN POWER, no more pushing.

GBKJ2003, screw you and your six speed manual gearbox. Who needs that anyway? ME! Waaahhh! darn you. Well at least someone gets to enjoy a manual. Glad you got it squared away. I am curious as to the differences you've observed between your 2.3 and 2.8, power, efficiency, drivability, etc. And seriously, thanks for all your advice, you have been spot on.

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Just to update, with over 4k miles since completing the swap everything is as it should be. The Liberty has been from Tampa to Gettysburg and back (where I picked up a Cummins 4bt to swap into my Dakota) and it pulled the 4X8 trailer with the nearly ton load just fine, although it seemed to have a bad rear bearing. Turned out it was actually a bent passenger rear axle from the rollover. Put in a new axle and rear brakes and all is well. Next is a trip to Las Vegas and back (to Tampa) pulling four 55 gallon drums full of biodiesel on the trailer. That will be a ~5000 mile trip on $100 (my biodiesel costs me 50 cents/gallon).

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