Failed Water Pump

Stevereed · **Posted:** Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:09 pm

Wednesday afternoon I experienced a water pump failure at the gear bushing. It appears that when the bushing went, it tilted the gear sideways enough to cause the timing belt to loosen and jump on the camshaft gears. I heard a little chirping when I started it that morning and thought I’d look at it after work. That was a bad idea. I replaced the belt, water pump and pulleys in November and had about 4000 miles on them. Is there any way to tell if the rockers are busted without pulling the head?

Sir Sam · **Posted:** Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:14 pm

unless you have some other major symptoms the only way to be sure is to pull the intake and see.

WolverineFW · **Posted:** Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:36 pm

Was the new waterpump OEM or Aftermarket?

LIBERTYinLIBERTY · **Posted:** Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:26 pm

New, or rebuilt?

msilbernagel · **Posted:** Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:49 pm

Sir Sam wrote:

unless you have some other major symptoms the only way to be sure is to pull the intake and see.

Sadly...

Stevereed · **Posted:** Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:47 pm

It was a Crown Water Pump and supposedly new.

camo · **Posted:** Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:27 am

is that the water pump offered by advance autoparts?

warp2diesel · **Posted:** Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:29 pm

Unlike claims of lost sales, lost profits, hard ships; damage caused by a defective part is not something one should take sitting down and the parts supplier should pony up.
Lawyers have a way of communicating with cheap Bean Counter Sweat Shop rebuilders or knock off parts manufacturers. The distributor should carry product liability insurance to cover the damage and a good Lawyer should have the drafts loaded into his Office Word Processors so his Para-Legal could fire off a letter that most of the time gets results without going to court. Good Lawyers communicate that settling for you quickly and covering your out of pocket costs is the cheap way out, Money Talks.
If you go the Small Claims rout, the Parts Supplier's Lawyer will use a lot of wear you down tactics to get you to drop the case. When I was in the jack you around game in the past, I told the other party that I no linger had any time and will turn it over to my Lawyer and you are welcome to pay his fees and court costs. They gave me a check.
What I did in the past was to reserve the option to pay either for the Lawyer's time or pay him/her on contingency.
I am no Lawyer, but if you are a key player you can get the best results, like getting your CRD fixed.

Stevereed · **Posted:** Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:40 pm

camo wrote:

is that the water pump offered by advance autoparts?

The one on Advance Autoparts site looks like a different manufacturer.

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:34 pm

warp2diesel wrote:

Unlike claims of lost sales, lost profits, hard ships; damage caused by a defective part is not something one should take sitting down and the parts supplier should pony up.
Lawyers have a way of communicating with cheap Bean Counter Sweat Shop rebuilders or knock off parts manufacturers. The distributor should carry product liability insurance to cover the damage and a good Lawyer should have the drafts loaded into his Office Word Processors so his Para-Legal could fire off a letter that most of the time gets results without going to court. Good Lawyers communicate that settling for you quickly and covering your out of pocket costs is the cheap way out, Money Talks.
If you go the Small Claims rout, the Parts Supplier's Lawyer will use a lot of wear you down tactics to get you to drop the case. When I was in the jack you around game in the past, I told the other party that I no linger had any time and will turn it over to my Lawyer and you are welcome to pay his fees and court costs. They gave me a check.
What I did in the past was to reserve the option to pay either for the Lawyer's time or pay him/her on contingency.
I am no Lawyer, but if you are a key player you can get the best results, like getting your CRD fixed.

Sad part is these days if you did the work yourself your SOL,trhey may cover the pump but that's it.They will get you everytime with it was not installed right and it will stick in court.If you read the warranty it will state that the part itself is covered for so many miles/months but any labor and other damage is on you,and that also will get you in court everytime.

warp2diesel · **Posted:** Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:19 am

tjkj2002 wrote:

warp2diesel wrote:

Unlike claims of lost sales, lost profits, hard ships; damage caused by a defective part is not something one should take sitting down and the parts supplier should pony up.
Lawyers have a way of communicating with cheap Bean Counter Sweat Shop rebuilders or knock off parts manufacturers. The distributor should carry product liability insurance to cover the damage and a good Lawyer should have the drafts loaded into his Office Word Processors so his Para-Legal could fire off a letter that most of the time gets results without going to court. Good Lawyers communicate that settling for you quickly and covering your out of pocket costs is the cheap way out, Money Talks.
If you go the Small Claims rout, the Parts Supplier's Lawyer will use a lot of wear you down tactics to get you to drop the case. When I was in the jack you around game in the past, I told the other party that I no linger had any time and will turn it over to my Lawyer and you are welcome to pay his fees and court costs. They gave me a check.
What I did in the past was to reserve the option to pay either for the Lawyer's time or pay him/her on contingency.
I am no Lawyer, but if you are a key player you can get the best results, like getting your CRD fixed.

Sad part is these days if you did the work yourself your SOL,trhey may cover the pump but that's it.They will get you everytime with it was not installed right and it will stick in court.If you read the warranty it will state that the part itself is covered for so many miles/months but any labor and other damage is on you,and that also will get you in court everytime.

One thing blows that theory all to #ell, is the JURY TRIAL! John Edwards using JUNK SCIENCE got jury awards where he suckered them into believing that Cerebral Palsy was caused by Natural Child Birth. He and his late wife made multi millions pulling this scam. She stayed true and died forgiven, he messed around had a love child and the rest is History.
But you are right about the line they blow about "Professional Installation", again they blow that line, and only a poor Lawyer would let it slide by. Most likely it would be settled out of court unless the company is like Gateway Computer who will spend $1,000,000 to get out of paying a $750 settlement. Liability insurance companies go for the cheapest option. Put their back against the wall, they will cave. A smart Lawyer will go after the manufacturer/rebuilder, their Liability Insurance provider, the importer if the part was imported, the distributor, and the selling store.
Paying a settlement on consequential damage is cheaper than a court battle.

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