anyone want to build me a bumper?

tommudd · **Posted:** Sun May 20, 2012 4:06 pm

If you don't like RL and would never buy any of his products anyways then :?:

As far as quality
Having bought bumpers and other 4 wheel drive items over the last 38 years ( longer than most on here have been alive) RLs quality is as good if not way better than anything I have ever bought

Now can we move on with life
if you want something buy it
if you don't :ALONE:

2006 KJ · **Posted:** Wed May 23, 2012 10:19 pm

i've always had good luck with rocklizard. not the fastest... but always held true to his word... and always came through with outstanding products. sure i had to enlarge a few holes to make my roof rack fit but i expect that with aftermarket. custom products. after all my KJ wasnt there to test fit.. and the rack isn't made out of paper.

plus all his stuff looks awesome.. and is strong as an ox

Ms5490renegade · **Posted:** Thu May 24, 2012 12:48 am

BugginKJ wrote:

Wow he has had a rough couple of years with family and health so people want to take him and his business to the whippin post?!?!?! :evil:

Sure at times he has taken some extra time answer emails or calls but ALWAYS come through when givin a chance! He also is a business that has been here on LOST for quite some time supporting us like no other with great products! People need to grow up and realize not everything can go the way the want it to in their time frame especially when dealing with custom fab work. Lay off the man already! :evil:

edit: It also is sickening that some folks that have never ordered anything or have any intentions of ordering product from him will bash him and or his service, some I guess just love to stir the pot :banghead:

No excuses when your running a business

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CoopaTroopa · **Posted:** Thu May 24, 2012 7:13 am

Its amazing how people come out of the woodwork simply to show their booty and insult someone and their work. Maybe when you start producing things for us you can talk about others practices but at this point you have no idea what kind of work goes into his products. I like how no one bashes JCR anymore even though they had a product that did not install as it should have and they refused to admit that. If you're going to call out Marty for his practices you should be fair and do it to everyone.

Ms5490renegade · **Posted:** Thu May 24, 2012 10:13 am

It's almost theft. I've seen a local one of his so called products. A soldered together mess. He takes forever to. Make half booty products. At this point just about any other bumper company is better. Atleast they won't have you wait a year after you paid, using your money to fund some stupid sfa kit

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tommudd · **Posted:** Thu May 24, 2012 11:29 am

You notice the people causing the biggest stink have never dealt with Marty nor will ever buy anything from him
But some will cross the street just to kick someone after they have been tripped and beat down. Makes them feel all powerful and more like a he man.

tommudd · **Posted:** Thu May 24, 2012 11:32 am

CoopaTroopa wrote:

I like how no one bashes JCR anymore even though they had a product that did not install as it should have and they refused to admit that. If you're going to call out Marty for his practices you should be fair and do it to everyone.

Agree , I tried emails and calling to offer suggestions to JCR and never got one response to their carppy way of making their front mounts on the rock rails
Other wise they have a good product but that one issue is enough to make them subpar

Ms5490renegade · **Posted:** Thu May 24, 2012 11:50 am

tommudd wrote:

You notice the people causing the biggest stink have never dealt with Marty nor will ever buy anything from him
But some will cross the street just to kick someone after they have been tripped and beat down. Makes them feel all powerful and more like a he man.

You know just as well as I do it isn't right. If you go to a grocery store and spend 500 bucks and they say you'll ha even your food at your house by Saturday, and it doesn't show up till Christmas and it's all rotted, would you be happy? I know enough people getting messed over by this guy. No matter what if your running a business there are standards to keep up.

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tommudd · **Posted:** Thu May 24, 2012 12:09 pm

My rear bumper/rockrails/tire carrier/gas can carrier/roof rack are all top notch, well built and never had to wait very long for what I consider the hbest out there.
None of them were spoiled when I got them :wink:

But this topic is done
enough is enough

Ms5490renegade · **Posted:** Thu May 24, 2012 12:12 pm

tommudd wrote:

My rear bumper/rockrails/tire carrier/gas can carrier/roof rack are all top notch, well built and never had to wait very long for what I consider the hbest out there.
None of them were spoiled when I got them :wink:

But this topic is done
enough is enough

And Vickie? Eric? They are just two. When he gets off his behind he makes top notch stuff.

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tommudd · **Posted:** Thu May 24, 2012 2:20 pm

here we go, again
until YOU know the whole story............

Ms5490renegade · **Posted:** Thu May 24, 2012 3:37 pm

Arb makes nice stuff and you'll have it before Christmas.

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denvergrows · **Posted:** Thu May 24, 2012 5:23 pm

Well...... A picture is worth a thousand words.
I feel like it is an established and agreed upon fact that he takes a long time, even after receiving payment, to get the products delivered. Seems no one argues with that(which alone IS a horrible business practice), however, what seems to be in question is if the products are worth the wait and money when they do arrive. So lets see pics. Of both the claimed faulty "soldered mess" and the great products talked about by tommudd.

Please.

BugginKJ · **Joined:** Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:35 pm **Posts:** 4576

Drama and bad news will always travel like a wild fire especialy when fueled by this crazy uncontrolled wind called the internet :banghead:

denvergrows · **Posted:** Thu May 24, 2012 10:30 pm

We should probably put rescrictions on what you can say on the Internet then.

tommudd · **Posted:** Thu May 24, 2012 10:43 pm

Think these will work?
Of course not someone will have something to say about them
:ROTFL:

Ms5490renegade · **Posted:** Thu May 24, 2012 11:17 pm

Hate to put a friends jeep on blast. Look closely by the turn signal. I honestly would have asked for my money back if I got a product thrown together like this

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tommudd · **Posted:** Thu May 24, 2012 11:31 pm

First he only made a few of those and has since changed the design a LOT
Second it was made to mount on early and later model KJs
Third anyone with 10 minutes of time could weld it solid if that is what you wanted
Fourth
ah heck some would claim there is too much peanut butter on their sandwich :ROTFL:

Look closely at EVERY weld on mine PERFECT!!!
:wink:

NewOldTimer · **Posted:** Thu May 24, 2012 11:37 pm

tommudd wrote:

CoopaTroopa wrote:

I like how no one bashes JCR anymore even though they had a product that did not install as it should have and they refused to admit that. If you're going to call out Marty for his practices you should be fair and do it to everyone.

Agree , I tried emails and calling to offer suggestions to JCR and never got one response to their carppy way of making their front mounts on the rock rails
Other wise they have a good product but that one issue is enough to make them subpar

I have a set of JCR Stage 3 rock rails. Just installed them a couple of months ago.
I had zero problems with the install. The only difficult part was wrestling them into place by myself to mark the
holes on the sub frame. BTW.... I have all 4 bolts in on the front mount, but did have a "hole" very close to one of the rear bolts on my sub frame, so I left it out.

I made my own template for the pinch weld from a strip of wood I had laying around in the garage.

To be honest, it was more of a chore to install my ARB bumper than the rock rails.

denvergrows · **Posted:** Thu May 24, 2012 11:48 pm

Although that doesn't look like it would be a major structural defect considering where it is on the bumper, but why not weld it all the way as opposed to just tacking it in a few places? Are all the welds just tacks like that or lower is it fully done?

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