Thanks for staying here. Your forum gripe sounds like edmunds. I guess I was a suspect whiner there when with all my problems and others, I asked DC to step up to the plate. Never happened. DC L.O.S.T. their butt on the CRD(except how not to screw up the Grand Cherokees-maybe). Needed huge incentives. We early buyers did not get $7000 off msrp. We are probably not the only ones who are upside down and will be that way for some time to come. My sister said if we buy the crd we would own it a long time-we hope it's a good time ahead. We saw and bought what could've been. We love/are disappointed at times with our crd. Yes, Daimler and their subserviant Jeep people are to blame. There are posts of great crd's but I haven't found a happy camper or seen a well built one here in Texas(looked under three owned hoods and some on lots). Beta testers don't pay for the product but we did. One might think DC owes us something but that's not going to happen. Do I want a Blu-tec-I don't think so. Will we look first to gm and then asia - probably. Maybe the new plant in Toledo will build better vehicles. I posted at edmunds some time back about the posts turning to something like talk about colours and fabrics and swinging dice, but thank goodness there are some great people here. The crd is a unique vehicle and if you get a good one, you are very lucky and every turn of the key is a happy, joyous moment.