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 Post subject: Shifting lag and "chirp"
PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:07 pm 
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So, drove home today and between 30-40 mph and low rpms my transmission lagged (or the jeep lurched) and I heard a chirp. Drove fine after and did it again in the same mph range and low rpm. It doesn't lag/chirp at the same speeds and higher rpms. I just had my tranny fluid changed a week ago at Midas and did the transfer case myself 4-5 weeks ago along with an oil change. Any ideas??

I'm about to drive it again through some city streets and see if it happens again. Really weird chirping sound! :banghead:

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 Post subject: Re: Shifting lag and "chirp"
PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:36 pm 
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My idea is somebody did something wrong!
Why did you have it changed, scheduled maintenance, or ? Did Midas have the correct tools need for Trans oil change? Did they use correct Trans fluid?.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:27 pm 
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Better get to the dealership and have it flushed again and get the Midas stuff out

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tommudd wrote:
Better get to the dealership and have it flushed again and get the Midas stuff out

This.

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 Post subject: Re: Shifting lag and "chirp"
PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:35 am 
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Taking her in tomoorrow afternoon. Hopefully the extended warranty I purchased helps out...thanks for the reponses.

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Cherrie 274 wrote:
My idea is somebody did something wrong!
Why did you have it changed, scheduled maintenance, or ? Did Midas have the correct tools need for Trans oil change? Did they use correct Trans fluid?.


The dealership did nothing but an oil change, so I just wanted the fluids changed.

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Good luck and keep us posted.

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She's at the dealership, find out tomorrow. I bought the Jeep from a chevy dealership and bought the extended warranty with 52000 miles. They tried to tell me it should still be under the power train from Jeep, WE can't do much. Uh-uh. We'll see...

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 Post subject: Re: Shifting lag and "chirp"
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Dealer could find no noticeable problem, so I guess it was just a weird quirk. They even drove it over to the Jeep dealership. Fluids were fine, everything. Guess I was just stressed out over other stuff, who knows.

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Back to Midas, did they use the correct ATF? Unless they have changed something all they do is add some type of additive and say its the same. Did the dealership actually test the ATF to see if it was the correct type ?

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 Post subject: Re: Shifting lag and "chirp"
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tommudd wrote:
Back to Midas, did they use the correct ATF? Unless they have changed something all they do is add some type of additive and say its the same. Did the dealership actually test the ATF to see if it was the correct type ?

Does Midas even have the correct tools to measure the fluid?
I thought a special tool was needed...

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 Post subject: Re: Shifting lag and "chirp"
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Midas put Valvoline Max Life ATF in and it seems to be an appropriate substitute, but this type of issue seems to be common with old transmissions. But I only have 57000 miles. I am going back on Friday however to try and get ATF+4 in there, closed for thanksgiving early.

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TrueTexUSN wrote:
Midas put Valvoline Max Life ATF in and it seems to be an appropriate substitute, but this type of issue seems to be common with old transmissions. But I only have 57000 miles. I am going back on Friday however to try and get ATF+4 in there, closed for thanksgiving early.

I'm not an expert, but I think switching back to ATF+4 will make it better. Try not to drive it till then.

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 Post subject: Re: Shifting lag and "chirp"
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Gageraid wrote:
TrueTexUSN wrote:
Midas put Valvoline Max Life ATF in and it seems to be an appropriate substitute, but this type of issue seems to be common with old transmissions. But I only have 57000 miles. I am going back on Friday however to try and get ATF+4 in there, closed for thanksgiving early.

I'm not an expert, but I think switching back to ATF+4 will make it better. Try not to drive it till then.


Back to Midas, ATF+4 was what was put in the jeep. The shift lag is only on the first couple of shifts after start up. Had a couple of others drive it and both dealerships (purchased from and Jeep dealership next door) and it seems to be fine (fluid level, no DTCs). I just notice the shift from 3rd to 4th much more now on those first couple of cold shifts. :? Anything changes i'll post it.

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TrueTexUSN wrote:
Gageraid wrote:
TrueTexUSN wrote:
Midas put Valvoline Max Life ATF in and it seems to be an appropriate substitute, but this type of issue seems to be common with old transmissions. But I only have 57000 miles. I am going back on Friday however to try and get ATF+4 in there, closed for thanksgiving early.

I'm not an expert, but I think switching back to ATF+4 will make it better. Try not to drive it till then.


Back to Midas, ATF+4 was what was put in the jeep. The shift lag is only on the first couple of shifts after start up. Had a couple of others drive it and both dealerships (purchased from and Jeep dealership next door) and it seems to be fine (fluid level, no DTCs). I just notice the shift from 3rd to 4th much more now on those first couple of cold shifts. :? Anything changes i'll post it.


How long have you owned the Jeep?
It definitely shifts far from perfect when it's cold.
Mine doesn't shift normally till it's just about warmed up.

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 Post subject: Re: Shifting lag and "chirp"
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Owned her almost 6 months now. The shift is just MUCH more pronounced now when cold. Was freaked out a bit by it, but all seems well.

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 Post subject: Re: Shifting lag and "chirp"
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TrueTexUSN wrote:
Owned her almost 6 months now. The shift is just MUCH more pronounced now when cold. Was freaked out a bit by it, but all seems well.


So this is your first Winter with her? Sounds like you just gotta get used to the aged transmission that is far from perfect. Like I said, don't expect good gas mileage or for it to shift right until it's completely warmed up.

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 Post subject: Re: Shifting lag and "chirp"
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yep first winter, as much as we get one in San Diego that it is. :jester:

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I feel pretty confident that the cold shifting is all that you're experiencing, but still be careful.

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