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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 1:25 pm 
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'98 was a good year for the 4.0 because it's just before they started using the 0331 heads on them, but it still has most of the modern improvements for more HP. I had a 2000 XJ with the 4.0 and the 0331 head cracked, and I almost toasted my bearings because coolant contaminated the engine oil. Nice to know you won't have to worry about that problem. I would say to check for wobbles when you drive it at speed, because if the suspension is really worn out you can get "death wobble". Also make sure it isn't burning oil, that the oil isn't "milky" from a head gasket problem, or that the coolant doesn't have oil or an exhaust smell in it either. Make sure the 4x4 system works, that the windows, AC, heat, and electronics all work like they should. Check for rot under the rocker panels. This is one place XJ's and ZJ's get hit with rust pretty bad if they lived in a salty winter state. Try to get the antilock brakes to engage if the ZJ came with that option (a few higher end ones did). Take it to a good mechanic to get their opinion too. All in all, the 4.0 is a really good engine design. It has tons of raw torque and has been known to last forever when taken care of! It should be more than enough power for the ZJ. Sometimes I wish we had the 4.0 instead of the 3.7 in our Liberties!

The Kelly Blue Book website puts the private party value for a "good" condition ZJ Laredo with 111K miles at $2,499 at my zip code (in Philly). The dealer value will be a bit higher. But $2,500 might be a good price to shoot for. I'd start bargaining lower.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:04 pm 
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I think you should try and find a 5.9L ZJ there was one for sale here. If I had any money it'd be mine.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:50 pm 
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'98 was a good year for the 4.0 because it's just before they started using the 0331 heads on them, but it still has most of the modern improvements for more HP. I had a 2000 XJ with the 4.0 and the 0331 head cracked, and I almost toasted my bearings because coolant contaminated the engine oil. Nice to know you won't have to worry about that problem. I would say to check for wobbles when you drive it at speed, because if the suspension is really worn out you can get "death wobble". Also make sure it isn't burning oil, that the oil isn't "milky" from a head gasket problem, or that the coolant doesn't have oil or an exhaust smell in it either. Make sure the 4x4 system works, that the windows, AC, heat, and electronics all work like they should. Check for rot under the rocker panels. This is one place XJ's and ZJ's get hit with rust pretty bad if they lived in a salty winter state. Try to get the antilock brakes to engage if the ZJ came with that option (a few higher end ones did). Take it to a good mechanic to get their opinion too. All in all, the 4.0 is a really good engine design. It has tons of raw torque and has been known to last forever when taken care of! It should be more than enough power for the ZJ. Sometimes I wish we had the 4.0 instead of the 3.7 in our Liberties!

The Kelly Blue Book website puts the private party value for a "good" condition ZJ Laredo with 111K miles at $2,499 at my zip code (in Philly). The dealer value will be a bit higher. But $2,500 might be a good price to shoot for. I'd start bargaining lower.


Good to know. I'll talk to the family then. The owner is only asking $1000. I know the 4.0s are great, aside from the later years. Aside from that, I was pretty lost with a ZJ. No idea where to look for problems nor prices. Now XJs on the other hand, so common around here, you learn what to look out for from friends fixing theirs.

LKW, trust me, my family loves their v8s. But sometimes you have give a little depending on the deal lol.

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Only asking a grand? That's a steal! I've seen the 4.0s get over 200k miles with no problem. If it's clean like you said it seems like a good idea. I'd love to find a 2nd Jeep for that price.

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I'm with you. My experience is with an XJ, but I think the ZJ is pretty close to being the same underneath in terms of drivetrain and suspension and all. I test drove both before I decided on my XJ.

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Witness: Man rode on back of car on I-77
http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/local/w ... -77/ngT9M/

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LKWJeeper wrote:
Witness: Man rode on back of car on I-77
http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/local/w ... -77/ngT9M/

Wow. And he broke the back glass and climbed inside at interstate speeds.... Are you sure he wasn't a T-1000 liquid metal terminator? :grim:

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Haha I have no idea how you're riding on the back of a car and can smash a window.. Someone better call Arnold.

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Check this out! Too bad they don't have one for the KK, or I would totally buy one!

http://www.mopar.com/jeep-custom-hood-decal/

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My friend's dad just bought a KL Limited.
For a while my friend said her dad got a new Jeep. I asked her what kind, but of course she had no idea...
Finally my girlfriend went to hangout with her for the day so I told her to tell me what he got and it's a KL! Usually when someone says they got a Jeep you immediately think Wrangler or a Grand. I hope to show off my KK to him soon and I'll mention the forum to him.

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when I first got my KK, I told my brother-in-law I bought a new vehicle. He asked what kind, I said a Jeep, and first thing he said to me was that he was excited to ride with me with the top down and doors off... I then sarcastically explained that Jeep makes more than just Wranglers.

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I gave and received back a Jeep wave from a KK this morning. :JEEPIN:
I saw he had his Sky Slider open and his hand holding on up by the roof and had a feeling he was gonna throw me a wave up there.
Initiated the wave and got it back. It was dark green I believe.

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I don't even bother with attempting any Jeep wave around here. I don't even think half the Wrangler owners do it themselves.

One of my captains on the fire department told me he'd only wave to wave to me in my Jeep because I was on the fire department. And when I resigned in January he said no more waving :lol:

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I got one from a lifted KJ, and mostly XJs. I think I've had a few Wranglers, but those are rare. They're off in their own little world lol.

Actually had an XJ wave to me the other day. He had his front doors off and had a small lift, maybe 2.5" or so.

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Been working night crew this week. Working 11p.m.-7:30a.m. for a week, or two, or three. Not sure how long yet.

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Been a one income family for the last 2.5 months. After a very long 2.5 months my wife starts back to work tomorrow. It's a full time job but the down side is its only for 3 months. It's better than nothing!

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Been a one income family for the last 2.5 months. After a very long 2.5 months my wife starts back to work tomorrow. It's a full time job but the down side is its only for 3 months. It's better than nothing!


We all know what it's like to pinch pennies. Good luck to your family. Maybe she can find her next job through the one she just got?

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Yeah pinching pennies sucks but the contract job could provide something permanent.

Thanks Gage!

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It's raining cats and dogs here in Jersey. The best part about when it rains is that I have an excuse to turn my fog lights on. :twisted:

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I'll officially be living with my girlfriend on August 1. I've been staying with her quite a bit but I need to finish moving all my stuff. I'll be cutting 160 miles per month off my commute and I'll save $200 per month in rent. I will have to incur the cost of the half our electric bill and 1/3 of the internet but hopefully those won't be too bad. So I should still be saving some money. But now I may need to find a storage unit for some of my stuff and I'm hoping that won't offset any savings I was looking at.

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