This is some cool stuff

http://www.ironman4x4.co.za/pdfs/accessories_fitting_instructions/strut_instructions.pdf

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2004 KJ 3.7 Limited:
IRO WJ Upper Arm -- WJ Rear LCA's -- Rear Driveshaft Spacer -- JBA Upper A Arms -- 4 inch Lift -- 265/75/16 4" B/S -- WasherBottle Relocate -- Custom High Mount Intake -- Carpet Delete -- Homebrew Winch Bumper -- Warn VR8000 -- Homemade Plow -- Pinch Weld POUNDED -- POR 15 inner fenders --

Anybody wanna take a stab at how much downward travel a stock Libby has?? I,m lifted so I can't measure.

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2004 KJ 3.7 Limited:
IRO WJ Upper Arm -- WJ Rear LCA's -- Rear Driveshaft Spacer -- JBA Upper A Arms -- 4 inch Lift -- 265/75/16 4" B/S -- WasherBottle Relocate -- Custom High Mount Intake -- Carpet Delete -- Homebrew Winch Bumper -- Warn VR8000 -- Homemade Plow -- Pinch Weld POUNDED -- POR 15 inner fenders --

Good instructions/ information seen it a few years back when they brought the Ironman products to the states

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MUDD'S MOTORSPORT'S We do IFS lift installs ,
03 OVERLAND EDITION /Kilby-Skidrow-Mopar-4XGuard skids/ 2.5 inch TOTAL CONTROL JBA coilovers -JBA Arms/MOABS-31 FALKEN WILDPEAK AT3W / 4.10's etc, 04 Kilimanjaro Edition loaded, plus 05 KJ limited

I noticed the placement of their trim spacer actually compresses the spring. What is up with that.

And my question is... Is the height actually adjustable, or is adding the 15mm (15mmx2=1.4 inches) spacer just like clevis lift?

In essence could I not just get ome struts and fab a "trim packer"?? Cause like I am whits end trying to hit 22.5... It either comes up 21 or 24... Which is retarded.

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2004 KJ 3.7 Limited:
IRO WJ Upper Arm -- WJ Rear LCA's -- Rear Driveshaft Spacer -- JBA Upper A Arms -- 4 inch Lift -- 265/75/16 4" B/S -- WasherBottle Relocate -- Custom High Mount Intake -- Carpet Delete -- Homebrew Winch Bumper -- Warn VR8000 -- Homemade Plow -- Pinch Weld POUNDED -- POR 15 inner fenders --

Two different things, the trim spacers actually raise the rate of the springs, so while it may raise some the main purpose is for say heavier bumpers/ winches etc.
Not sure why you are at wits end to hit 22.5 heck thats easy to do. Not an issue at all if using the right parts

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MUDD'S MOTORSPORT'S We do IFS lift installs ,
03 OVERLAND EDITION /Kilby-Skidrow-Mopar-4XGuard skids/ 2.5 inch TOTAL CONTROL JBA coilovers -JBA Arms/MOABS-31 FALKEN WILDPEAK AT3W / 4.10's etc, 04 Kilimanjaro Edition loaded, plus 05 KJ limited

At one point I had the daystar 2.5, 1/4 top plate, 3 c-nuts, rustys strut, and the ironman coil and it came up 24 inches, I ditched the daystar the. I got 20. I put the daystar top plate in, I got 21. I put 3 conduit nuts in.. And it didn't do anything lol. Eye roll.

That is an assload of messing around when I gotta take the strut out and run it down to the shop to compress it, take it apart, metal band it, and then run it home again. Over and over and over and over. I am beginning to think my problem is the rustys strut isn't compatible with the ironman coil..

I tell you, with just the daystar top plate and the ironman coil... It rides soooooooooooooo smooth. Like Lincoln mkx smooth. Maybe even smoother. No bs.

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2004 KJ 3.7 Limited:
IRO WJ Upper Arm -- WJ Rear LCA's -- Rear Driveshaft Spacer -- JBA Upper A Arms -- 4 inch Lift -- 265/75/16 4" B/S -- WasherBottle Relocate -- Custom High Mount Intake -- Carpet Delete -- Homebrew Winch Bumper -- Warn VR8000 -- Homemade Plow -- Pinch Weld POUNDED -- POR 15 inner fenders --

Keep in mind.. I was messing around with a cradle drop, that I put on the backburner.

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2004 KJ 3.7 Limited:
IRO WJ Upper Arm -- WJ Rear LCA's -- Rear Driveshaft Spacer -- JBA Upper A Arms -- 4 inch Lift -- 265/75/16 4" B/S -- WasherBottle Relocate -- Custom High Mount Intake -- Carpet Delete -- Homebrew Winch Bumper -- Warn VR8000 -- Homemade Plow -- Pinch Weld POUNDED -- POR 15 inner fenders --

Rustys used to just use the OME front shocks and put one of their stickers on it, I assume they still do that. If it has a sticker/ decal somewhere pull it off and see whats under it
I've never had any of the issues you have had doing any of the lifts here. Would know before I started exactly where it would be when done

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MUDD'S MOTORSPORT'S We do IFS lift installs ,
03 OVERLAND EDITION /Kilby-Skidrow-Mopar-4XGuard skids/ 2.5 inch TOTAL CONTROL JBA coilovers -JBA Arms/MOABS-31 FALKEN WILDPEAK AT3W / 4.10's etc, 04 Kilimanjaro Edition loaded, plus 05 KJ limited

I peeled the warning label off before installing it last year and there was nothing under it.

I'm gonna try one more time. Then it's adjust a strut time.

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2004 KJ 3.7 Limited:
IRO WJ Upper Arm -- WJ Rear LCA's -- Rear Driveshaft Spacer -- JBA Upper A Arms -- 4 inch Lift -- 265/75/16 4" B/S -- WasherBottle Relocate -- Custom High Mount Intake -- Carpet Delete -- Homebrew Winch Bumper -- Warn VR8000 -- Homemade Plow -- Pinch Weld POUNDED -- POR 15 inner fenders --

Have you tossed the Daystar top mount yet?
If so get rid of that
Then with .500 clevis ( only used with Ironman springs) and 1/4 inch top plate you're good

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MUDD'S MOTORSPORT'S We do IFS lift installs ,
03 OVERLAND EDITION /Kilby-Skidrow-Mopar-4XGuard skids/ 2.5 inch TOTAL CONTROL JBA coilovers -JBA Arms/MOABS-31 FALKEN WILDPEAK AT3W / 4.10's etc, 04 Kilimanjaro Edition loaded, plus 05 KJ limited

The jeep has been down for the Easter weekend. Doing something special in the rear end I am sure you guys will find interesting. But the top plates are on the way out ASAP.

I just needed new studs for the factory ones.

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2004 KJ 3.7 Limited:
IRO WJ Upper Arm -- WJ Rear LCA's -- Rear Driveshaft Spacer -- JBA Upper A Arms -- 4 inch Lift -- 265/75/16 4" B/S -- WasherBottle Relocate -- Custom High Mount Intake -- Carpet Delete -- Homebrew Winch Bumper -- Warn VR8000 -- Homemade Plow -- Pinch Weld POUNDED -- POR 15 inner fenders --

Half inch clevis you say?

The underside of my strut body, just below where the spring sits. There is the the portion where the clevis split collar mounts to the strut. There is a provision on the strut that stops the split collar from riding all the way up to the spring perch. Do I put .500 from the bottom of the provision, or .500 from the spring perch?

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2004 KJ 3.7 Limited:
IRO WJ Upper Arm -- WJ Rear LCA's -- Rear Driveshaft Spacer -- JBA Upper A Arms -- 4 inch Lift -- 265/75/16 4" B/S -- WasherBottle Relocate -- Custom High Mount Intake -- Carpet Delete -- Homebrew Winch Bumper -- Warn VR8000 -- Homemade Plow -- Pinch Weld POUNDED -- POR 15 inner fenders --

BEFORE you slide the bottom of the shock down into the clevis you install the clevis spacer

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MUDD'S MOTORSPORT'S We do IFS lift installs ,
03 OVERLAND EDITION /Kilby-Skidrow-Mopar-4XGuard skids/ 2.5 inch TOTAL CONTROL JBA coilovers -JBA Arms/MOABS-31 FALKEN WILDPEAK AT3W / 4.10's etc, 04 Kilimanjaro Edition loaded, plus 05 KJ limited

lol. Yeah, I get that part.



in the picture I had, 1/4 top plate, factory mount, rustys shock, ironman Load C, and 3 conduit nuts and only got this for a measurement



so obv something is screwy.

Maybe I got a bad coilsprings??

I dunno, there is gonna be a redo in the next couple of days. wait for it.

And tom, I appreciate all the help. thank you.

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2004 KJ 3.7 Limited:
IRO WJ Upper Arm -- WJ Rear LCA's -- Rear Driveshaft Spacer -- JBA Upper A Arms -- 4 inch Lift -- 265/75/16 4" B/S -- WasherBottle Relocate -- Custom High Mount Intake -- Carpet Delete -- Homebrew Winch Bumper -- Warn VR8000 -- Homemade Plow -- Pinch Weld POUNDED -- POR 15 inner fenders --

Something is definately screwy. This is JUST ironman springs on bilsteins. Nothing else added. Sits about 1/2 inch lower about now 20,000 miles later.

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Ironman HD springs, Bilsteins, MLL's, Mopar skids 245 75 16 Treadwright Claw's.

Like no kidding. I spent 4 days straight, spring out, spring in, spring out... Even put a day star in with the kit... (Don't get me started on that retarded waste of money) I can't get it over 22 inches no matter what I do. I am so pissed.

Iron clad warranty is starting to sound really good.

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2004 KJ 3.7 Limited:
IRO WJ Upper Arm -- WJ Rear LCA's -- Rear Driveshaft Spacer -- JBA Upper A Arms -- 4 inch Lift -- 265/75/16 4" B/S -- WasherBottle Relocate -- Custom High Mount Intake -- Carpet Delete -- Homebrew Winch Bumper -- Warn VR8000 -- Homemade Plow -- Pinch Weld POUNDED -- POR 15 inner fenders --

I'm gonna email jba and see wtf is up. It's holding up production I gotta move onto other ways of screwing up my jeep. Lolx20

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2004 KJ 3.7 Limited:
IRO WJ Upper Arm -- WJ Rear LCA's -- Rear Driveshaft Spacer -- JBA Upper A Arms -- 4 inch Lift -- 265/75/16 4" B/S -- WasherBottle Relocate -- Custom High Mount Intake -- Carpet Delete -- Homebrew Winch Bumper -- Warn VR8000 -- Homemade Plow -- Pinch Weld POUNDED -- POR 15 inner fenders --

Never had am issue with Ironman like I said the first one out we set to be 3.5-3.75 inches of lift and it settled in at a little over 3.5 still like that today over 2 years later
With all that you've done swapped changed redid and hashed over I'm lost as to where you are now

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MUDD'S MOTORSPORT'S We do IFS lift installs ,
03 OVERLAND EDITION /Kilby-Skidrow-Mopar-4XGuard skids/ 2.5 inch TOTAL CONTROL JBA coilovers -JBA Arms/MOABS-31 FALKEN WILDPEAK AT3W / 4.10's etc, 04 Kilimanjaro Edition loaded, plus 05 KJ limited

The kj currently has 3 conduit nut clevis, iron load c, and daystar top plate. It is parked for the moment until I can get all this *h** squared away. I am really pissed about it lol, in a goofy kinda way.

Can you do me a fav.. And list *exactly* what you put in 501's kj. I have a SOLID 23 in the rear. Wj rear lowers and IRO upper a arm and jba 4inch springs. See the pic above for current measurement on the front.

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2004 KJ 3.7 Limited:
IRO WJ Upper Arm -- WJ Rear LCA's -- Rear Driveshaft Spacer -- JBA Upper A Arms -- 4 inch Lift -- 265/75/16 4" B/S -- WasherBottle Relocate -- Custom High Mount Intake -- Carpet Delete -- Homebrew Winch Bumper -- Warn VR8000 -- Homemade Plow -- Pinch Weld POUNDED -- POR 15 inner fenders --

I have the same thing as 501, except for a special item that gets me 4"+ and 501 has that trim packer

Starting at the top 501 has

1/4" top plate
Stock upper mount
Stock rubber iso
Ironman spring
Stock rubber bottom iso
Trim packer
(shock ledge)
3/8" clevis space
Stock clevis

That should get you 22.5"-22.75"

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2002 KJ Limited 3.7, 5.25" lift via coilovers, custom HD rear springs, 32.2" tires on moabs (soon 33s) 4.56/JBA diff, OX lockers front/rear, NP241OR, Parker Fab front/rear bumpers, rock rails and roof rack, Viair OBA.

2006 KJ sport 3.7, 4" Ironman lift, 32" tires, Parker Fab front/rear bumpers and rock rails.