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 Post subject: Fuel Filter, how often
PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:08 pm 
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I bought a 2006 CRD back in February. Been driving since March. Put about 10,000 miles on it. How often do you guys change fuel filters on these?

I was thinking every 20k miles or so.

I feel like I've lost a little bit of throttle response at highway speed.

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel Filter, how often
PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:17 pm 
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Sam's CRD newb guide has some good info...though I don't see a basic rule of thumb for mileage (I know there's no magic number as it depends on driving conditions and what not), but I'm still interested to hear you guys' takes.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:36 pm 
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I go about 30k miles on mine.
Unless I somehow get a bad tank of fuel. Then its sooner.

Be sure to check for air in fuel. Adding a lift pump helps.

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel Filter, how often
PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:37 pm 
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I've been going 40K without a problem. But I always keep a spare with me, just in case.

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel Filter, how often
PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:49 pm 
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I change every 20k

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel Filter, how often
PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:28 pm 
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Appreciate the replies. It's my first diesel, so I'm trying to get a handle on the quirks of being a diesel owner.

The previous owner had installed a lift pump, but I think it's not functioning properly.

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel Filter, how often
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 1:09 am 
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Str8sixfan wrote:
The previous owner had installed a lift pump, but I think it's not functioning properly.



Why do you think that?

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel Filter, how often
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 3:00 am 
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Should be every other year, or 20k miles - sooner if the diesel in your area is not that clean.

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel Filter, how often
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:50 am 
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I agree with others, every two years at least unless you happen to get hold of some bad fuel! Err on the side of caution!!! :roll:
What makes you think the lift pump is not functioning properly?

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel Filter, how often
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:03 pm 
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I've not changed mine since 2010. Having already worked through AIF issues I'm of the opinion that touching anything between the tank and CP3 has potential to set you up for a world of aggro. If it's working don't touch it. Of course, I'd change it out if I had symptoms that suggested it was restricted in any way.


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 Post subject: Re: Fuel Filter, how often
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:04 pm 
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Turn the ignition on. If the plunger on the fuel filter is hard your pump is working.

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Fuel Filter - 15000 miles - Napa Gold 3647 - Every 3 oil changes, just put a tick on it with a sharpie each change

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel Filter, how often
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I tend to agree with Ceearedeedriver. As long as you have a spare, it might actually be safer not to change it. It's no fun chasing down air leaks. I've gone well over 100K in my VWs on one fuel filter.

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel Filter, how often
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Best is to read wwdiesel post in the tech forum, and install a 2 micron filter. If that's not feasible for you, I'd advice to follow the manual, I believe it states 20k service, as Lancer said.

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel Filter, how often
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graycenphil wrote:
I tend to agree with Ceearedeedriver. As long as you have a spare, it might actually be safer not to change it. It's no fun chasing down air leaks. I've gone well over 100K in my VWs on one fuel filter.

You're the 2nd person I heard of going this much with a fuel filter change. Lol. Both of you are crazy... No offense please.

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel Filter, how often
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Hexus wrote:
Here's my PM Schedule:

Oil - 5000 Miles - Napa Gold 51515 Filter / Rotella T6 5w40
Air - 12000 Miles - Napa Gold 2329
ASD Relay - 12000 Miles
Fuel Filter - 15000 miles - Napa Gold 3647 - Every 3 oil changes, just put a tick on it with a sharpie each change

Hexus, why are you changing asd relay that often? Knock on wood, I never replaced it so far...

I wonder if you can have other issues if the relay blows up. It's not that's expensive or whatever, but I'm just curious.

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel Filter, how often
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No offense taken, Thermorex. The VWs are a bit different - they had a seperate waste vegetable oil tank and filter. So basically I have two redundant fuel supply systems. If either filter ever clogged, I could drive home on the other system. But they never clogged; I guess we get pretty clean fuel. The only time I ever had to change a filter was because of gelled diesel or algae growing in the WVO tank. I've never clogged a diesel filter.

So I feel pretty comfortable going 40K on the Jeep, but I do carry a spare, just in case.

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel Filter, how often
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 5:25 pm 
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Ceearedeedriver wrote:
I've not changed mine since 2010. Having already worked through AIF issues I'm of the opinion that touching anything between the tank and CP3 has potential to set you up for a world of aggro. If it's working don't touch it. Of course, I'd change it out if I had symptoms that suggested it was restricted in any way.

If you have an in-tank fuel pump, changing the OEM fuel filter and even a 2 micron secondary fuel filter that some of us are running is absolutely no problem as far as a air in fuel issue! If you are scared to change a simple fuel filter due to possible air infusion, then you might want to seriously consider installing an in-tank fuel pump... :wink:

If you have priced a CP3 injection pump or 4 fuel injectors for this motor, you will fully understand why some of us are so adamant about fuel cleanliness and keeping clean fuel filters in service... No flame intended!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel Filter, how often
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graycenphil wrote:
No offense taken, Thermorex. The VWs are a bit different - they had a seperate waste vegetable oil tank and filter. So basically I have two redundant fuel supply systems. If either filter ever clogged, I could drive home on the other system. But they never clogged; I guess we get pretty clean fuel. The only time I ever had to change a filter was because of gelled diesel or algae growing in the WVO tank. I've never clogged a diesel filter.

So I feel pretty comfortable going 40K on the Jeep, but I do carry a spare, just in case.

Great, I never meant "crazy" as offensive. I guess you can risk it this way. After all its your vehicle and do what you want regardless... Worse case you'll realize the fuel is clogged and change it. There is a guy on ram EcoDiesel forum that went 107k and never changed the fuel filter, then he traded in the truck for a new one. Lol. And he's also mechanically inclined.

I've noticed the filters get blackened out, not sure why, even after 10k. Of course, I believe the fuel these days is cleaner than few decades ago. Unless you have bad luck to fuel from a cracked tank with lots of dirt and water...

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel Filter, how often
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WWDiesel wrote:
Ceearedeedriver wrote:
I've not changed mine since 2010. Having already worked through AIF issues I'm of the opinion that touching anything between the tank and CP3 has potential to set you up for a world of aggro. If it's working don't touch it. Of course, I'd change it out if I had symptoms that suggested it was restricted in any way.

If you have an in-tank fuel pump, changing the OEM fuel filter and even a 2 micron secondary fuel filter that some of us are running is absolutely no problem as far as a air in fuel issue! If you are scared to change a simple fuel filter due to possible air infusion, then you might want to seriously consider installing an in-tank fuel pump... :wink:

If you have priced a CP3 injection pump or 4 fuel injectors for this motor, you will fully understand why some of us are so adamant about fuel cleanliness and keeping clean fuel filters in service... No flame intended!!!


I agree with the approach, even if I keep postponing installing the 2 micron filter... I gotta get to it one of these days. I may pull the trigger and get a Carter pump and relocate both filters under the rear bench seat, since I really don't have any space left in the engine bay... Side me babbling around, a 2 micron filter will definitely extend the life of the cp3 ($1200-ish at idparts.com) and injectors ($1200-2400 depending if new or reman). Definitely worth the addition. And also, do not ever run out of fuel, this can damage the injectors and cp3. Always fill up, when possible, at quarter tank, cp3 cools with fuel.

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