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 Post subject: Re: Vibration on deceleration
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:06 am 
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this fixed my jeep also. started suddenly vibrating under 25mph. I also want to add that before all this was happening I was getting a sudder/vibration just before torque converter lock up at 52mph, so from 45-51mph I was getting a shutter that would get stronger until tc locked up and the other symptom was truck running over ruts from 25mph to stopping.
Upon inspection universal joint looked fine, but when you remove joint from rear axle and try to move the joint it gives resistance and this is why it shutters going down the road. basically the grease dries up. who knows why. I just wanted to add this to help others trouble shoot thiers. I replaced both joints $20 each 1.5 hours worth of work(having right tools ofcourse)


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 Post subject: Re: Vibration on deceleration
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 12:37 pm 
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How difficult are the u-joints to replace, with that goofy iron flywheel attached to the shaft?

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 Post subject: Re: Vibration on deceleration
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 12:49 pm 
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it was awkward, I used a mini press from harbor freight (#1666) A frame press and some iron bar for load support for pressing. another thing I want to point out is the transmission fluid doesn't run out when shaft is removed...sealed unit. Just make sure you put some lube inside like wheel bearing grease.
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A frame press #1666
2lb hammer
flat punch
needle nose pliers
large regular pliers (to pull caps out after pressing)
wheel bearing grease.
Moog universal joints #280
15mm cv socket for driver shaft removal
dead blow hammer ( to break shaft loose)

I think the hardest part is to get your mind into it. tedious but easy.


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 Post subject: Re: Vibration on deceleration
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:07 pm 
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jeepdan wrote:
How difficult are the u-joints to replace, with that goofy iron flywheel attached to the shaft?


That iron flywheel is part of the shaft that comes out from the rubber boot from transfer case, not a problem at all. All you need is to take out the Diff bolts that secure the axle on the rear diff, the axle slides down from the Diff side and then pulling the axle from the transfer case. In case the axle is stuck on the diff side, use some penetrating oil. To remove the ujoints, the best tool is a ball joint c clamp press, and an impact gun.

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 Post subject: Re: Vibration on deceleration
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:16 pm 
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I presume that shaft is balanced so while it might not make a huge difference I'd mark things so it goes back together and gets installed in the same position(s) as when you took it out.

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 Post subject: Re: Vibration on deceleration
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 3:17 pm 
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papaindigo wrote:
I presume that shaft is balanced so while it might not make a huge difference I'd mark things so it goes back together and gets installed in the same position(s) as when you took it out.

Good thing to do, most service manuals advise to do this, although I usually forget :dizzy:

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 Post subject: Re: Vibration on deceleration
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 3:35 pm 
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I forgot to mark mine, and I didn't feel any vibration. Crd's shaft is short, so it shouldn't be a problem. But obviously it's good to to that.

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 Post subject: Re: Vibration on deceleration
PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 9:04 am 
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I had a second failure a few weeks ago. Exact same shudder during low speed deceleration so this time I knew exactly what was wrong. No warranty any more so I ordered the parts and in the meantime sprayed the joint with some penetrating oil to hopefully assist removal. After a couple of days and a couple of good sprayings the shudder disappeared completely :shock:. It ran fine for about a fortnight and then started shuddering occasionally at high speed . By now the new joints had arrived. One of the arms on the old joint was completely dry with powder where the needles used to be.

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 Post subject: Re: Vibration on deceleration
PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 10:13 pm 
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papaindigo wrote:
I presume that shaft is balanced so while it might not make a huge difference I'd mark things so it goes back together and gets installed in the same position(s) as when you took it out.

Drive-shafts are indexed and balanced so they have the mass rotational forces counteract each other to some degree:
Advice from an experienced mechanic; take the time to do what Papaindigo suggested, it is very good advice and may save you a vibration problem in the future and make your U-joints last longer!!!!
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 Post subject: Re: Vibration on deceleration
PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:10 am 
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Just replaced my 245700 KM factory u joints with DANA SPICER HD sealed. Throwing the shaft back on and hopefully this solves the noise .

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 Post subject: Re: Vibration on deceleration
PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:01 pm 
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Bushman5 wrote:
Just replaced my 245700 KM factory u joints with DANA SPICER HD sealed. Throwing the shaft back on and hopefully this solves the noise .

Sent from my HTC Desire 510 using Tapatalk

Old thread but did this fix the problem?

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